More gloom and doom..CS is tanking

Re-Raise

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I don't know---maybe because you worked 30 years at UPS and your contributions were taken so that others before you had Social Security and a secure pension. Are you saying the new workers should only have to take care of themselves?
Ponzi scheme. Madoff would still be living well if he could have just convinced people to increase their contributions.
 

The Milkman

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Thanks. I am looking forward to retirement.

It is interesting that retired people like you and soon to be retired people like wkmac are so quick to give up the raises of current employees to ensure that your pension checks keep coming in full.

Hairball....You just don't get it....Since 81....I always wanted less of a wage because I felt I was making decent enough for the times, and more pumped into my benefits package which included the pension, so when the time came all of us would not be facing the situation we are now faced with.. But like I said before in previous posts....Everyone wanted it in their paychecks......So cough up a hairball and swallow them thoughts....Most reasonable people will understand and agree with my thoughts..........
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
It is interesting that retired people like you and soon to be retired people like wkmac are so quick to give up the raises of current employees to ensure that your pension checks keep coming in full.

Hairball....You just don't get it....Since 81....I always wanted less of a wage because I felt I was making decent enough for the times, and more pumped into my benefits package which included the pension, so when the time came all of us would not be facing the situation we are now faced with.. But like I said before in previous posts....Everyone wanted it in their paychecks......So cough up a hairball and swallow them thoughts....Most reasonable people will understand and agree with my thoughts..........
I'very always wanted less into pension, more into take home.

That way I could funnel more of my pay into my 401k.

All pension plans will eventually colapse.

Because they always run out of other people's money.
 

The Milkman

Well-Known Member
I'very always wanted less into pension, more into take home.

That way I could funnel more of my pay into my 401k.

All pension plans will eventually colapse.

Because they always run out of other people's money.

That's Fine.....But when I started there was no 401k at Ups, just a thrift plan...and a defined pension as a benefit at least back then was 1 of the benefits that at the time to me seemed very important looking down the road. I did join the 40ik when offered to bolster my pension, as a forced way to save, dumping part of my raises into it. I was 34 at the time...I believe that back then if more was put into the benefits pkg we would not have this issue today...Just my 2 cents
 
That's Fine.....But when I started there was no 401k at Ups, just a thrift plan...and a defined pension as a benefit at least back then was 1 of the benefits that at the time to me seemed very important looking down the road. I did join the 40ik when offered to bolster my pension, as a forced way to save, dumping part of my raises into it. I was 34 at the time...I believe that back then if more was put into the benefits pkg we would not have this issue today...Just my 2 cents
Don't forget about our thrift plan they got rid of.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
This guy had just over $100K in his. Cashed it out and used all of it to buy our stock when it first came out @ $20 or so per share. Supposedly had $1.8M in stock.

You couldn't put in much per week so it took a long time to grow. After years you could have a lot stashed away though.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
You couldn't put in much per week so it took a long time to grow. After years you could have a lot stashed away though.


There were a few years where it paid 20 -22% and in those years it grew like a SOB. But like all good things at UPS they found a way to put a cap on what you could earn and ruined the TP. When they dissolved the TP I had $126,000 in it.
 
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