National Right to Work - The Beginning of the End

[Bubblehead]

Hopefully the millions of dollars UPS burns through in turnover combined with the wasted administrative costs on the individual local unions' side encourages both parties to realize changes for the CBA beyond 2018.

Nope, they both like it just the way it is.

The company gets to pay a low starting wage, no benefits, holidays, and reduced vacation.
The Union gets initiation fees, plus dues.

The admistrative costs aren't prohibitive for either party.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Nope, they both like it just the way it is.

The company gets to pay a low starting wage, no benefits, holidays, and reduced vacation.
The Union gets initiation fees, plus dues.

The admistrative costs aren't prohibitive for either party.

It is a win win for both sides. The only losers are the Union PTers. But who cares about them.

 

[PiedmontSteward]

Nope, they both like it just the way it is.

The company gets to pay a low starting wage, no benefits, holidays, and reduced vacation.
The Union gets initiation fees, plus dues.

The admistrative costs aren't prohibitive for either party.

While this might be true in many parts of the country, this isn't the case in my local as we waive initiation fees for new PT hires.

 

[10 point]

They are a people company.

So is FedEx. And Walmart. And Honda. And Nissan.

 

[Catatonic]

My position alone? Nope. I'm just a PT shop steward.

Hopefully the millions of dollars UPS burns through in turnover combined with the wasted administrative costs on the individual local unions' side encourages both parties to realize changes for the CBA beyond 2018.

UPS has seemingly coughed up a non-contractual $0.15/hr nationwide to new PT hires bringing starting pay to $10.15/hr which didn't do a lick of good. A throwaway, disposable job is still a disposable job even with a few nickels more an hour.

Especially when you can work at McDonalds for more.

 

[sandwich]

The whole ideology the country was based on was feeedom. Being forced to pay dues to work a job is far from freedom.

We do have the right to form a Union and bargain, people should have the right not to join, not pay dues, and not be represented for concerning cillective bargaining or any discipline issues that would result in termination.

Pay dues=receive Union perks
Don't pay=No union perks

The concept is fairly simple

Right but that's not the case. Rtw says
Pay dues=receive union perks
Don't pay=receive union perks

Is getting something for free what the forefathers envisioned

 

[bbsam]

Right but that's not the case. Rtw says
Pay dues=receive union perks
Don't pay=receive union perks

Is getting something for free what the forefathers envisioned

I think they would have been OK with it.

 

[rod]

I suggest you stay out of Romper Room-----they spend the first hour or so of each day wishing one another Good Morning.

Gumby knows how I feel about all the post whoring going on with the Good Morning crap.

 

[rod]

They weren't rude OR mean spirited....I agree.

The man was joking.
TTKU

Fixed it for you.
Good to see someone gets it. Its all about jerking some ones chain to liven this place up.

 

[10 point]

Fixed it for you.
Good to see someone gets it. Its all about jerking some ones chain to liven this place up.

Yeah. The omitted line was supposed to depict his comments were ignorant not yours.
I think everyone else got it. Maybe except one.
For an ex-military person he sounded frightened of the Boogeyman.

 

[rod]

Yeah. The omitted line was supposed to depictt his comments were ignorant not yours.
I think everyone else got it. Maybe except one.
For an ex-military person he sounded frightened of the Boogeyman.

He wasn't true Military---he was Air Force.

 

[Catatonic]

Right but that's not the case. Rtw says
Pay dues=receive union perks
Don't pay=receive union perks

Is getting something for free what the forefathers envisioned

One thing I can assure you is that the forefathers did not envision Unions.
If they had, they would have probably fought against Unions.

 

[Catatonic]

He wasn't true Military---he was Air Force.

What you mean is ... he was not a grunt?

 

[wide load]

Especially when you can work at McDonalds for more.

Yet end with a lot less.

 

[Inthegame]

One thing I can assure you is that the forefathers did not envision Unions.
If they had, they would have probably fought against Unions.

And yet they formed a pretty good union of states to fight the tyranny of "corporate" England. More likely they'd ban smartassed, agitating monkeys before they'd worry about Unions.

 

[rod]

What you mean is he was not a grunt?

Were you in the Military?

 

[Catatonic]

Were you in the Military?

No but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

[sandwich]

One thing I can assure you is that the forefathers did not envision Unions.
If they had, they would have probably fought against Unions.

They would have probably fought against government interfering with private enterprise

 

[Catatonic]

They would have probably fought against government interfering with private enterprise

Absolutely!
including Unions interfering with private enterprises.

 

[Catatonic]

Were you in the Military?

Not the Navy, I can assure you ... I am heterosexual.