New Contract 9.5 Question

[Lead Belly]

You operate under completely different dynamics than I do locally.
I'm not quitting, just putting it out there in hopes of someone hearing me, rather than dismissing me.

You know, he's not happy so he's TDU.

Damn it, I'm supposed to be in Chicago.
If I leave now, I'll only be 5 hrs late.
Gotta go, have a good day.

God bless

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Just be proactive with the language we have. Ups can only divide u if you let them. The language is designed to discourage younger drivers, and say as bug's says pay your dues, you will see your family when you have 4 uears seniority in. Sarcasm. Enforce what you can

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[By The Book]

That is precisely what is happening in my center. Management has several routes where the bid driver is out on FMLA leave as well as a few unbid split routes and they shuffle the younger drivers through them to make them inelligeble for 9.5. Not to mention the contract says that start times and assignments are to be posted the friday of the preceeding week. NOT HERE. WE have daily assignments. Thinking of grieving but I know what this will do is make it extremely difficult to Request off for an unpaid day off if wanted/needed by higher seniority drivers

Does your supplement have language in it that calls for temp bidding of those routes that there is a leave for a known period of time. These can be bid by unassigned drivers in some areas and might be a way to get 9.5 protection for some under 4 year guys. If routes run they should be bid.

 

[Bubblehead]

The language is designed to discourage younger drivers, and say as bug's says pay your dues, you will see your family when you have 4 uears seniority in. Sarcasm

Yea, I get the sarcasm when you are talking about people who have already endured 10 years of part time sort work to get a chance to "pay their dues"....

 

[BigUnionGuy]

as bug says, pay your dues

And, Don't whine about it.

You will make everyone else, look bad if you do.



-Bug-

 

[Inthegame]

its a touchy situation.

Do I really want to go toe toe and call out the man who will be fighting for my job should something happen?

You don't need to "call out" your BA, but if he/she is not processing grievances per the contract, you should be contacting your locals PO.

 

[Inthegame]

It's "funny" how the membership is chastised repeatedly for not entrusting ineptitude?

The ineptitude is voted in by the membership.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The ineptitude is voted in by less than 1/3 of the membership.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You don't need to "call out" your BA

From all the post's I see here.... And on FaceBook....

People, talk a good game.

But if he/she is not processing grievances per the contract, you should be contacting your locals PO.

And, most UPS people hide behind their cell-phone and not talk to their Local.

But, they will stay in touch with their UPS supervisor.... all day long.



-Bug-

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

From all the post's I see here.... And on FaceBook....

People, talk a good game.



And, most UPS people hide behind their cell-phone and not talk to their Local.

But, they will stay in touch with their UPS supervisor.... all day long.



-Bug-

I text my BA and say the. Boys need.some beer.... Mainly me!

 

[Lead Belly]

From all the post's I see here.... And on FaceBook....

People, talk a good game.



And, most UPS people hide behind their cell-phone and not talk to their Local.

But, they will stay in touch with their UPS supervisor.... all day long.



-Bug-

Having courage takes courage.

 

[Bubblehead]

You don't need to "call out" your BA, but if he/she is not processing grievances per the contract, you should be contacting your locals PO.

Then what?

 

[Bubblehead]

The ineptitude is voted in by the membership.

Yep; from top to bottom, in this instance case, no precedence set.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Having courage takes courage.

A good chief,is nothing without a tribe.

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

A good chief,is nothing without a tribe.

Are you saying the strong union official is nothing without a strong membership?

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

I agree with you

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Are you saying the strong union official is nothing without a strong membership?

Pretty much. Every all star needs a good team.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Are you saying the strong union official is nothing without a strong membership?

A strong membership requires educating the members about what the Union can and will do to protect your rights. The slackers sure know how to play the game.

 

[Inthegame]

Then what?

Then you let the PO (who has taken an oath of office) explain why they let a BA not perform their duties. If the PO fixes it, you're good. If you're given a shoe shine, talk to a board agent and file a DFR.

 

[Inthegame]

Yep; from top to bottom, in this instance case, no precedence set.

But in this instant case, we're talking about the "bottom"(your words).
Why aren't you in Chicago?