Im an hour or two over everyday nothing happens to me. Been here for years
Not Runner Gunner But Don't Eat
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mrbrownstone
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Out of all the good comments and advice on here. What you wrote hits home very well.
I like your idea of gradually increasing the break time as well.
Also for whatever the reason I never really viewed what I was doing ad cheating my woman and kids out of money but your right it is.
Thanks.
Coldworld
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Oh brother.... Please tell us you aren't a 20 year vet!!
Coldworld
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Dave don't be "thAt" guy.... Oh wait, you are already " that" guy.... Carry on with the brainwashing "vet"....
El Correcto
god is dead
i enjoy my lunch too much to skip it. It's my one hour to sit there and do absolutely nothing productive. Drives them nuts. I'll usually get a message towards the end of the hour. They should be more honest during the 30 days and require you to take your personal time, then they wouldn't be pissed when you start to.
35years
Gravy route
Reminded me of an old thread here:
http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/lunch-skippers.356164/
The total would be over $3 Million with current pay...
"So...
How much is that pat on the back worth, when you skip your lunch or set up your truck off the clock?
If you did not skip your lunch, and instead invested that $49.50 (1 hour) in overtime into your 401k in stocks, you might be surprised...
Over your career you are handing UPS nearly 3 million dollars !
You can see the number below. I assumed a conservative 8% return on investment in stocks (historically 9-10% long term). Also I assumed 3% annual raises (conservative compared to historical increases)
One hour of overtime pay at $32.99 per hour, 5 days a week.
Your total is $2,986,746 after 35 years.
I hope you enjoy that 3 million dollar pat on the back, you earned it.
You are cheating your family out of this money and handing it to the fat cats at the top.
United Parcel Service Co. gave its chairman and CEO, D Scott Davis compensation valued at $10.7 million in 2012. (4 year business degree Portland State)"
http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/retirement/401-k-retirement-calculator.aspx
Are you following the methods? Do you feel that the pace you're working at constitutes a fair days work for a fair days pay? Are you working and driving safely? If you can say yes to these questions, then the numbers simply don't matter.
The numbers are changed by I.E. to suit whatever flavor of the month standard upper management comes up with. The numbers don't accurately reflect the time it takes to do the job in the vast majority of cases.
As long as you feel you aren't screwing over the company, then take the prescribed break/lunch time. The company loves when you don't take the allotted time, because you save them so much money, and make the center numbers look better.
At $50/hour overtime rate, a skipped lunch costs you over $12,000 per year. I would rather get a
chewing every day than give up that kind of money. It's a lot to give up just to get an "atta boy".
The numbers are changed by I.E. to suit whatever flavor of the month standard upper management comes up with. The numbers don't accurately reflect the time it takes to do the job in the vast majority of cases.
As long as you feel you aren't screwing over the company, then take the prescribed break/lunch time. The company loves when you don't take the allotted time, because you save them so much money, and make the center numbers look better.
At $50/hour overtime rate, a skipped lunch costs you over $12,000 per year. I would rather get a
chewing every day than give up that kind of money. It's a lot to give up just to get an "atta boy".Holydriver
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Everyone always mentions how much money you are losing. That's important to some, but others don't see it like that. I started my career skipping lunches, then slowly started taking 30-40 minutes, now I'll only skip lunch if I'm going to get in early enough to make an hour of guarantee or if I've got somewhere to go after work on a Friday. But the thing is, that money going back to the company is important to you, but someone else thinks that time outside of work is more important than the money. UPS lacks a work/life balance. Some people forgo OT in order to try and achieve a little bit of it.
i enjoy my lunch too much to skip it. It's my one hour to sit there and do absolutely nothing productive. Drives them nuts. I'll usually get a message towards the end of the hour. They should be more honest during the 30 days and require you to take your personal time, then they wouldn't be
10 min breaks were never mentioned once here. Actually I recall my sup encouraging working through lunch to get in earlier
Orion inc.
I like turtles
Umm yeah...so reading this whole thread and all your posts, you sound like you need to stop being a pushover and grow some serious balls.
Do the job by the methods and take your full lunch. You don't work at all during your lunch. If you do, that is falsifying records. It doesn't matter if you want to "stretch " your walk pace down. Are you freaking kidding???
How the hell did you make your seniority? It sounds like you don't even have the understanding of how ups and being a driver works.
Because you are doing it all wrong
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
Man, they got you brainwashed and running scared. That must suck.
Coldworld
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Like I said I hope this person isn't a vet... Lol
mrbrownstone
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Not a vet only a few months senority
Orion inc.
I like turtles
Then you better change your mindset or you won't make it to be a vet.
Learn to play the game.
35years
Gravy route
A few months?
You are still learning, or should be.
It takes at least a year of applying yourself completely, physically and mentally, to become a fully competent driver.
If you apply yourself, you will become a good driver. But you need to make the effort.
Perhaps this is a generational thing. Every driver was expected to strive to become a true professional back when I started. It does not happen overnight. You don't have to run, or do unsafe or dishonest stuff. But you do need to give it your all.
Coldworld
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In order to survive player has to be a gangster....
Coldworld
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But for some, giving it your all means running your ass off all day with no lunch... No thank you...
I had the same mentality when I started and would skip my lunch. Over time, I worked up to taking a full lunch for several reasons...
-I got faster and more confident I was doing the job properly, using the methods.
-Co-workers (and on here) explained I really should take a full lunch.
-I'd get p.issed for working for free.
-Got a new sup that has never mentioned over-allowed, even when I'm 1.5 over.
So take your lunch eventually, that's my point.
p.s. Getting a new sup was a game changer for me. It changed the attitude (positively) of our whole center I think.
-I got faster and more confident I was doing the job properly, using the methods.
-Co-workers (and on here) explained I really should take a full lunch.
-I'd get p.issed for working for free.
-Got a new sup that has never mentioned over-allowed, even when I'm 1.5 over.
So take your lunch eventually, that's my point.
p.s. Getting a new sup was a game changer for me. It changed the attitude (positively) of our whole center I think.
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