Now you know why Biden was never elected President.

[refineryworker05]

Clinton for four years said Trump stole the election, that he knows he's not the legitimate president. All through his presidency he had to deal with the Russian collusion hoax, the Ukrainian quid pro quo bogus impeachment, the blaming him for everything concerning covid. And Democrats screamed bloody murder about Trump winning and refused to accept it.

Look man, Clinton didn't file one lawsuit to overturn the election she lost, trump filed over 60, see that's different behavior. Pretending its the same is dishonest. Clinton didn't call state election reps and pressure them to overturn the results of the election, trump did this in multiple states. See that's different behavior pretending its the same is dishonest. Clinton didn't hold rallies saying stop the steal. Trump did this multiple times. See that's different behavior pretending its the same is dishonest. Elected Democrats didn't change voting laws, they didn't vote against ratifying the results of the election, they didn't hold a rally and incite democratic voters to riot to stop congress from certifying the results, those are all things republicans did do. See that's different behavior. You can't pretend that bothsides did the same thing when it comes to losing a presidential election. It is inaccurate and a lie.

The russia investigation was started by the FBI, not by elected Democrats, and it was approved by self identified republicans like Comey and Jim Baker, the special prosecutor was again appointed by a republican in the DOJ, and the reason for the Russia investigation was investigated by the US senate intelligence committee which at the time had a republican majority and found that the Russia investigation was undertaken based on sound reasoning, The Ukraine thing again were white house national security aides talking about how troubling the call was and one national security council notified white house security lawyers about the call. There were two whistle blowers one a member of the CIA and the other an intelligence officer. Neither of those things were started by elected Democrats. So none of those investigations would have invalidated the 2016 election because if trump was removed the VP on the winning ticket in 2016 Mike Pence a republican would have become potus. Blaming trump for covid is just you complaining about politics, if some disaster befalls america do you think republicans won't blame Biden?

 

[vantexan]

Look man, Clinton didn't file one lawsuit to overturn the election she lost, trump filed over 60, see that's different behavior. Pretending its the same is dishonest. Clinton didn't call state election reps and pressure them to overturn the results of the election, trump did this in multiple states. See that's different behavior pretending its the same is dishonest. Clinton didn't hold rallies saying stop the steal. Trump did this multiple times. See that's different behavior pretending its the same is dishonest. Elected Democrats didn't change voting laws, they didn't vote against ratifying the results of the election, they didn't hold a rally and incite democratic voters to riot to stop congress from certifying the results, those are all things republicans did do. See that's different behavior. You can't pretend that bothsides did the same thing when it comes to losing a presidential election. It is inaccurate and a lie.

The russia investigation was started by the FBI, not by elected Democrats, and it was approved by self identified republicans like Comey and Jim Baker, the special prosecutor was again appointed by a republican in the DOJ, and the reason for the Russia investigation was investigated by the US senate intelligence committee which at the time had a republican majority and found that the Russia investigation was undertaken based on sound reasoning, The Ukraine thing again were white house national security aides talking about how troubling the call was and one national security council notified white house security lawyers about the call. There were two whistle blowers one a member of the CIA and the other an intelligence officer. Neither of those things were started by elected Democrats. So none of those investigations would have invalidated the 2016 election because if trump was removed the VP on the winning ticket in 2016 Mike Pence a republican would have become potus. Blaming trump for covid is just you complaining about politics, if some disaster befalls america do you think republicans won't blame Biden?

I didn't say she did. However she did say repeatedly that Trump stole the election with the help of the Russians. Said he knows he's not the legitimate president. And Trump didn't incite rioters. Show me what he said that encouraged them on the 6th to invade the Capitol building? And what occurred on the 6th was nothing compared to the riots last summer in terms of violence and mayhem. Not even close. So get over the 6th if you and fellow Democrats are going to downplay what happened last summer.

The Russian investigation was based on a phony dossier that Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for. Period. Trump was never found to have done anything wrong including with Ukraine. It was about the Dems desperation to oust him. We spent four years enduring repeated lies and what did it get us? A further divided country. Thank the good Lord for Donald Trump. He gave us three good economic years before covid.

Under Biden the money being printed and spent has gone into orbit. The border is being overrun. China, Russia, and Iran have been emboldened. It's not a matter of if we'll blame Biden for a disaster. It's which disaster caused by Biden will be considered the worst.

 

[refineryworker05]

I didn't say she did. However she did say repeatedly that Trump stole the election with the help of the Russians. Said he knows he's not the legitimate president. And Trump didn't incite rioters. Show me what he said that encouraged them on the 6th to invade the Capitol building? And what occurred on the 6th was nothing compared to the riots last summer in terms of violence and mayhem. Not even close. So get over the 6th if you and fellow Democrats are going to downplay what happened last summer.

The Russian investigation was based on a phony dossier that Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for. Period. Trump was never found to have done anything wrong including with Ukraine. It was about the Dems desperation to oust him. We spent four years enduring repeated lies and what did it get us? A further divided country. Thank the good Lord for Donald Trump. He gave us three good economic years before covid.

Under Biden the money being printed and spent has gone into orbit. The border is being overrun. China, Russia, and Iran have been emboldened. It's not a matter of if we'll blame Biden for a disaster. It's which disaster caused by Biden will be considered the worst.

This what happens every time one communicates with republicans about reality, their penchant to believe delusions takes over and they just start asserting things that have zero basis in facts in the reality based world. Yes I know you believe trump didn't incite a riot, except the RIOTERS were recorded and they said they were doing this on trump's orders. He asked them to come and then told them to march on the capital and told them the lie the election was stolen and that they had to stop it, and then his supports marched on the Congressional building and tried to stop the ratification of the election. This isn't a you think this and I think that thing. The RIOTERS say they did this under trump's orders.

The protests in Summer was because a man was brutally killed by a police officer while he begged for his life for 9minutes. Zero elected Democrats called people to protest, they may have expressed solidarity with the protests, but they didn't organize the protests, the protestors weren't saying we are protesting because x, y, z democratic politician wanted us to protest. These are huge differences.

The russia investigation was not based on that dossier, again the DOJ while trump was potus and the senate intelligence committee when republicans had a senate majority released reports saying the russia investigation which was started by the FBI was based on sound evidence. The Mueller report did say trump was guilty of obstruction of justice multiple times, the report went out of its why to say it did not exonerate trump, but that they would follow DOJ precedent not to charge a sitting potus with a crime, the Ukraine scandal had republicans publicly criticizing trump for his wrong doing, republicans wanted to censure trump over the riots on Jan. 6. trump's economic record is objectively abysmal. In terms of Biden, we shall see how his presidency turns out, but trump's was a disaster by any objective measure.

 

[refineryworker05]

In a two-month period, February to April 2020, the unemployment rate soared to an 80-year high and the number of employed Americans fell from 152.5 million to 130.3 million. Those 22.2 million job losses set U.S. employment back to 1999 levels.

Since, the economy has moved from contraction to expansion and seen 12.3 million jobs return. However, it hasn't been enough to offset the job losses that occurred during the pandemic.

That means that Trump will become the first post–World War II president to see employment fall during his presidency. It last occurred when Herbert Hoover left office in 1933 amid the early years of the Great Depression.


When Trump took office in Jan. 2017, U.S. employment was at 145.6 million. On Friday, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics released its final jobs report before the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden. It shows in December there were 142.6 million employed Americans, down 3 million from Trump's own inauguration.

This is trump's economic record as potus

 

[refineryworker05]

Some of the people who stormed the Capitol earlier this month have said did so on the instructions of President Donald Trump, which some legal experts say could open him to criminal charges of incitement, the Washington Post reported.

Multiple people who the FBI arrested in the wake of the failed insurrection on January 6 have told the agency that they did so on the instructions of the president, according to the Post, which cited both court documents and video footage from the failed insurrection.

In court papers and interviews, at least four pro-Trump rioters have said they joined the march that spiraled into violence in part because the president encouraged them to do so.
In the past few days, a retired firefighter charged with assaulting members of the Capitol Police force told a friend he went to the building following “the president’s instructions,” according to a criminal complaint, and a Texas real estate agent accused of breaching the building told a reporter that by protesting in Washington, she had “answered the call of my president.”
A Virginia man has told the friend.B.I. that he and his cousin marched on the Capitol because Mr. Trump said “something about taking Pennsylvania Avenue.” And a lawyer for the so-called QAnon Shaman — who invaded the building in a Viking costume — said that Mr. Trump was culpable, and he planned to ask the White House for a pardon.

 

[refineryworker05]

Every Capitol Rioter Who Has Said Donald Trump Incited Them

At least 13 people have named the former president as a reason for them allegedly storming the Capitol on January 6.

www.newsweek.com

Jake Angeli​

The avid supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theory requested a pardon from Trump for because he "accepted President Trump's invitation to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol.

Daniel Goodwyn​

A San-Francisco based member of the Proud Boys, Goodwyn posted on Twitter that the far-right extremists should "stand back and stand by" and "await orders from our Commander in Chief" on November 7.

Emanuel Jackson​

"The nature and circumstances of this offense must be viewed through the lens of an event inspired by the President of the United States," Brandi Harden wrote in a January 22 court filing.

 

[refineryworker05]

Fact check: Democrats have condemned violence linked to BLM, anti-fascist protests

A post claims that no Democrats have advocated for an end to violence by BLM and antifa. That is false — Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and others have.

www.usatoday.com

Top Democrats told Black Lives Matter activists to steer clear of violence​

Multiple high-profile Democrats have spoken out against violence at Black Lives Matter protests, sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer in May.

On May 31, the fifth night of demonstrations, former Vice President Joe Biden, the party’s presumptive nominee, wrote in a statement that protesting police brutality is “right and necessary” and the “American response."

“But burning down communities and needless destruction is not,” Biden wrote. “Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.”

On June 3, Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the majority whip of the House of Representatives, told The Washington Post that the movement for racial justice suffers when it is “hijacked” by violence.

 

[refineryworker05]

Myron B. Pitts: 8 times Biden, Obama and others condemned Black Lives Matter violence

Some accuse Democrats of condemning the Capitol riots but giving a pass to the violence at some Black Lives Matter protests. The charge is false.

www.fayobserver.com

8 times Biden, Obama and others condemned Black Lives Matter violence​

A Democratic Party building in Portland, Oregon, was vandalized by protesters who spray-painted the words " Biden" on it.

 

[refineryworker05]

//www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

• The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.
• A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

 

[refineryworker05]

//www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/

• The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.[11]
• The Mueller report details multiple episodes in which there is evidence that the President obstructed justice. The pattern of conduct and the manner in which the President sought to impede investigations—including through one-on-one meetings with senior officials—is damning to the President.
• Five episodes of obstructive conduct stand out as being particularly serious:
  • In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[12] months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[13]
  • After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[14]
  • In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[15]
  • In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[16]
  • The Report raises questions about whether the President, by and through his private attorneys, floated the possibility of pardons for the purpose of influencing the cooperation of Flynn, Manafort, and an unnamed person with law enforcement.[17]

 

[refineryworker05]

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways

Here are the major findings from IG Michael Horowitz’s review of the FBI’s handling of its investigation of the Trump campaign in 2016.

www.politico.com

The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe​

A key accusation among Trump’s allies has been that the FBI predicated its investigation of Trump campaign officials Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn on information the bureau received from former British spy Christopher Steele.

But Horowitz found that the Crossfire Hurricane team — the code name agents gave to the Russia inquiry — did not receive Steele’s election reporting materials until after the investigation had already been opened using information about Papadopoulos the team received from an allied nation.

 

[vantexan]

This what happens every time one communicates with republicans about reality, their penchant to believe delusions takes over and they just start asserting things that have zero basis in facts in the reality based world. Yes I know you believe trump didn't incite a riot, except the RIOTERS were recorded and they said they were doing this on trump's orders. He asked them to come and then told them to march on the capital and told them the lie the election was stolen and that they had to stop it, and then his supports marched on the Congressional building and tried to stop the ratification of the election. This isn't a you think this and I think that thing. The RIOTERS say they did this under trump's orders.

The protests in Summer was because a man was brutally killed by a police officer while he begged for his life for 9minutes. Zero elected Democrats called people to protest, they may have expressed solidarity with the protests, but they didn't organize the protests, the protestors weren't saying we are protesting because x, y, z democratic politician wanted us to protest. These are huge differences.

The russia investigation was not based on that dossier, again the DOJ while trump was potus and the senate intelligence committee when republicans had a senate majority released reports saying the russia investigation which was started by the FBI was based on sound evidence. The Mueller report did say trump was guilty of obstruction of justice multiple times, the report went out of its why to say it did not exonerate trump, but that they would follow DOJ precedent not to charge a sitting potus with a crime, the Ukraine scandal had republicans publicly criticizing trump for his wrong doing, republicans wanted to censure trump over the riots on Jan. 6. trump's economic record is objectively abysmal. In terms of Biden, we shall see how his presidency turns out, but trump's was a disaster by any objective measure.

No, they didn't. Trump has been well quoted here and elsewhere and he never said any such thing. The Russian investigation used the dossier as justification for FISA warrants even after the FBI knew that it was unsubstantiated B.S. The Mueller report didn't outright say he obstructed justice and his actions resisting the Mueller investigation were due to the fact it was a witch hunt and B.S. Period. Not one Republican voted against Trump in the Ukraine impeachment trial.

 

[refineryworker05]

No, they didn't. Trump has been well quoted here and elsewhere and he never said any such thing. The Russian investigation used the dossier as justification for FISA warrants even after the FBI knew that it was unsubstantiated B.S. The Mueller report didn't outright say he obstructed justice and his actions resisting the Mueller investigation were due to the fact it was a witch hunt and B.S. Period. Not one Republican voted against Trump in the Ukraine impeachment trial.

Yes he did tell call them there, told them to march and told them they had to stop the steal. Again the rioters say they did this on trump's orders. It's like multiple trump supporters saying this. Look man the investigation was under way before that dossier so it wasn't started on that basis, Yes they did say he obstructed justice multiple times, they did go out of their way to say they don't exonerate trump and 1000prosecuters signed up to say if trump wasn't potus he would be charged with obstruction based on the evidence. Either way that's not clearing trump of any wrong doing. Yes republicans didn't vote to impeach trump, but they criticized his actions and the intelligence community and CIA members and members of the white house national security were disturbed by that phone call. They are all out to get trump? Why. Again talking with republicans one always runs into the fact that republicans have delusional belief problem

 

[vantexan]

Yes he did tell call them there, told them to march and told them they had to stop the steal. Again the rioters say they did this on trump's orders. It's like multiple trump supporters saying this. Look man the investigation was under way before that dossier so it wasn't started on that basis, Yes they did say he obstructed justice multiple times, they did go out of their way to say they don't exonerate trump and 1000prosecuters signed up to say if trump wasn't potus he would be charged with obstruction based on the evidence. Either way that's not clearing trump of any wrong doing. Yes republicans didn't vote to impeach trump, but they criticized his actions and the intelligence community and CIA members and members of the white house national security were disturbed by that phone call. They are all out to get trump? Why. Again talking with republicans one always runs into the fact that republicans have delusional belief problem

No, they didn't. No, they didn't. No, they didn't.

 

[DiadesSuk]

A lot of republicans believe the election was stolen from trump which is so illogical. A democratic party organized and ruthless enough to steal the presidential election, would have given themselves a 60 seat US senate majority, would have given itself the majority of state houses to control congressional redistricting, would be packing not just the supreme court but adding many more judges, adding states, they would pass a voting rights bill, etc. But that's clearly not reality. So believing that the democratic party stole the election ONLY from trump is irrational and delusional. and yet a huge percentage of republican voters believe that fantasy.

lol thats not how a strategy works... If you were to simply TAKE OVER that becomes very very obvious lol.. I attended some GOP meetings after the election before the runoffs. First hand I believe the republicans and the Dem's were working together to unseat trump but miscalculated the Ga seats. Its easy to let the president go as long as you tie up congress or senate. If you lose both then you literally just handed over the government to the opposing side. I think that was the accident.

But your post alone proves that you dont grasp how politics or our government works.

 

[DiadesSuk]

You are missing my point. I am saying republicans believe that Democrats stole the presidential election which is a mass delusion. My point is a Democratic that stole the presidential election would have stolen US senate seats to get a 60 voter majority, they would have taken control of most state governments and then they aggresively push their agenda. They'd expand the courts, they add more states, they'd pass a voting rights bill, they'd pass and econmic policy bill, etc. None of this stuff is happening.

yet they're trying to turn DC into a state lol.. And Biden has made it very clear that they would add more SCOTUS justices... The ONLY reason i think they've not done it is because of the escalation of power. If Biden does it now, the next president will do it more.. When their savior Ruth made it clear that the SCOTUS should remain intact as it does today, it deflates their momentum in all arguments since they use her day in and day out lol..

 

[Lineandinitial]

Reading this transcript, I’m like WTF!! Can he put together a single sentence that’s understandable?

Joe Biden Welcomes 2020 World Series Champions LA Dodgers to White House Speech Transcript | Rev

President Joe Biden welcomed the LA Dodgers, the 2020 World Series champions to the White House on July 2, 2021. Read the transcript of his speech remarks here.

www.rev.com

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

FFS, I see a left wing nut job had a TDS melt down in here this morning.

 

[Lineandinitial]

FFS, I see a left wing nut job had a TDS melt down in here this morning.

Yeah….Sad to watch.
It was a lot of to scroll past.
No one pays attention to him.

 

[vantexan]

Fact check: Democrats have condemned violence linked to BLM, anti-fascist protests

A post claims that no Democrats have advocated for an end to violence by BLM and antifa. That is false — Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and others have.

www.usatoday.com

Top Democrats told Black Lives Matter activists to steer clear of violence​

Multiple high-profile Democrats have spoken out against violence at Black Lives Matter protests, sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer in May.

On May 31, the fifth night of demonstrations, former Vice President Joe Biden, the party’s presumptive nominee, wrote in a statement that protesting police brutality is “right and necessary” and the “American response."

“But burning down communities and needless destruction is not,” Biden wrote. “Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.”

On June 3, Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the majority whip of the House of Representatives, told The Washington Post that the movement for racial justice suffers when it is “hijacked” by violence.

Nice of them to speak up after the fact. Where were they when it was happening?