NY to UPS: $872,000,000.00 please

[TooTechie]

New York seeks $872 million from UPS in cigarette shipments trial

 

[Coldworld]

There goes frigids mip payment for the next 45 years!!

 

[burrheadd]

Go Big or Go Home!!!

 

[Box Ox]

So, $872 million for untaxed shipments of 683,000 cartons of cigarettes would be....$1,277 per untaxed carton. Sounds reasonable.

 

[StoptheAct1212]

You ever heard the expression. Dont shoot the messenger..... outta here. Tax the people selling not us...

 

[Wally]

Audit delivery records. "Here you go New York". Have NY go after the receiver for taxes. What do we know, we just ship the stuff?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Audit delivery records. "Here you go New York". Have NY go after the receiver for taxes. What do we know, we just ship the stuff?

They knew....at least in my old center. I used to help load what they called the "cigarette truck" that that had was a PC that only had 3 stops at the Indian reservation every two weeks...a 1000 full of boxes of cigarette cartons. I think that stopped around 2011.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Audit delivery records.

That's a good one.


UPS would claim they couldn't retrieve them.

Just like DIAD messages.


Unless, it works in their favor.



-Bug-

 

[PT Car Washer]

They knew....at least in my old center. I used to help load what they called the "cigarette truck" that that had was a PC that only had 3 stops at the Indian reservation every two weeks...a 1000 full of boxes of cigarette cartons. I think that stopped around 2011.

And of course UPS higher management knew nothing.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

And of course UPS higher management knew nothing.

They knew....at least in my old center. I used to help load what they called the "cigarette truck" that that had was a PC that only had 3 stops at the Indian reservation every two weeks...a 1000 full of boxes of cigarette cartons. I think that stopped around 2011.

Heads up....

There might be a subpoena, headed your way.



-Bug-

 

[jaker]

Well I guess it time to start opening boxes to see what's in them

Sorry sir your business is in a bad area have to check the box for any illegal items that you are shipping out

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Heads up....

There might be a subpoena, headed your way.





-Bug-

I recall nothing.

 

[MendozaJ]

New York State is one of those customers that asks, "What is it?" I don't know lady. Sign, please.

 

[hellfire]

Greedy s then again it's that giant sewer NY

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

So, $872 million for untaxed shipments of 683,000 cartons of cigarettes would be....$1,277 per untaxed carton. Sounds reasonable.

Damn smokers are to blame. Sue them!

 

[bbsam]

UPS does have a history of settling stupid lawsuits instead of fighting them. No surprise a state is looking to cash in.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Greedy s then again it's that giant sewer NY

There is much more to New York state than the city.

Wouldn't it be nice if the AG did the right thing by directing the company to pay the fine directly in to our pension fund?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

UPS does have a history of settling stupis lawsuits instead of fighting them. No surprise a state is looking to cash in.

"Cash in" or "get what we have coming to us"?

 

[HEFFERNAN]

New York seeks $872 million from UPS in cigarette shipments trial

Does this shock anyone. All UPS cares about is money. Delivering FN couches and 150lb lead pipes !!! Delivering unlawful cigarettes because they make more with the A8 barcodes !! They will do anything to make a buck and don't care about the consequences. They'll just raise rates to cover the lawsuits costs anyways, then blame the greedy union drivers for the price of shipping in 2018.


It's not wrong for a business to make money. But when you "whip" your employees to unfair production standards with the FEAR of termination as a carrot, they've lost their soul because of their stockholders. A little piece of me hopes they lose in court.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Does this shock anyone. All UPS cares about is money. Delivering FN couches and 150lb lead pipes !!! Delivering untaxed cigarettes because they make more with the A8 barcodes !! They will do anything to make a buck and don't care about the consequences. They'll just raise rates to cover the lawsuits costs anyways, then blame the greedy union drivers for the price of shipping in 2018.


It's not wrong for a business to make money. But when you "whip" your employees to unfair production standards with the FEAR of termination as a carrot, they've lost their soul because of their stockholders. A little piece of me hopes they lose in court.

The untaxed cigarettes were not sent directly to residential addresses-----they were sent primarily to the Indian casinos who, in turn, may or may not have shipped them out to their customers.