Ocasio-Cortez and the “socialist” left

rickyb

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democracy used to be a radical idea:


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‏Verified account @Ocasio2018




Slave abolitionists were radical. Suffragettes were radical. Civil Rights organizers were radical. Labor organizers + the 40-hour workweek were radical once, too.

6:15 PM - 3 Jul 2018
 

vantexan

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they see the way americans talk about muslims and immigrants and its not different what happened before the nazis came to power.

moreluck is a prime example. total hysteria.
The Nazis were using thugs to beat up Jews and others. The closest thing we have to that is Antifa showing up at conservative speeches to attack others with clubs. Also on many college campuses there's a concerted effort to shut down conservative speech. If you want to talk about fascism in America today if you're honest you'll say it's the Left advocating it.
 

Sportello

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The Nazis were using thugs to beat up Jews and others. The closest thing we have to that is Antifa showing up at conservative speeches to attack others with clubs. Also on many college campuses there's a concerted effort to shut down conservative speech. If you want to talk about fascism in America today if you're honest you'll say it's the Left advocating it.
Delusional ramblings from someone in a former Soviet country.
 

rickyb

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The Nazis were using thugs to beat up Jews and others. The closest thing we have to that is Antifa showing up at conservative speeches to attack others with clubs. Also on many college campuses there's a concerted effort to shut down conservative speech. If you want to talk about fascism in America today if you're honest you'll say it's the Left advocating it.
the closest thing you have to that is KKK. and hate attacks. but the muslim hysteria in america is likely comparable to pre nazi germany jewish hysteria.

anti fascist using violence is a form of terrorism.
 

vantexan

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the closest thing you have to that is KKK. and hate attacks. but the muslim hysteria in america is likely comparable to pre nazi germany jewish hysteria.

anti fascist using violence is a form of terrorism.
You really need to think about what you're saying. The KKK is no longer a force in the U.S. And in no way is what has happened with Muslims comparable to what happened to the Jews in Germany. First off the Jews weren't attacking Germans. Secondly no one has, or is even suggesting, that Muslims wear an identifier like the Jewish Star of David. Nor are they being herded into ghettos. But in universities all over the U.S. conservative speakers have been shouted down, and in some cases, like at Berkeley, violent riots have erupted in efforts to silence conservatives. I know some here like to think their cause is just and pure, but really what's happening is an effort to curtail free speech. Dipwit attacks me for bringing it up, but she's a prime example of trying to shut down anyone who disagrees with her. Is that the direction we should be going?
 

rickyb

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You really need to think about what you're saying. The KKK is no longer a force in the U.S. And in no way is what has happened with Muslims comparable to what happened to the Jews in Germany. First off the Jews weren't attacking Germans. Secondly no one has, or is even suggesting, that Muslims wear an identifier like the Jewish Star of David. Nor are they being herded into ghettos. But in universities all over the U.S. conservative speakers have been shouted down, and in some cases, like at Berkeley, violent riots have erupted in efforts to silence conservatives. I know some here like to think their cause is just and pure, but really what's happening is an effort to curtail free speech. Dipwit attacks me for bringing it up, but she's a prime example of trying to shut down anyone who disagrees with her. Is that the direction we should be going?
dude. the muslim hysteria and immigrant hysteria is exactly the same thing as pre nazi germany. pre nazi germany also had austerity; sound familiar!! history rhymes. just give it time and america may continue that path the nazis followed. american government doesnt work anymore. neither did pre nazi germany.

rascism is a major force in america. muslims arent attacking america. its pretty few and far between.

im not sure what should be done about fascist speech. i recall greenwald and snowden saying "dont let the government censor speech". milo the fascist was invited to bill maher with scahill. so scahill withdrew from the show. im against violence. perhaps if people dont like fascist speech they should show up with signs and boo them. dont you agree? you can look up what these guys say about free speech and ACLU.
 
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vantexan

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dude. the muslim hysteria and immigrant hysteria is exactly the same thing as pre nazi germany. pre nazi germany also had austerity; sound familiar!! history rhymes. just give it time and america may continue that path the nazis followed. american government doesnt work anymore. neither did pre nazi germany.

rascism is a major force in america. muslims arent attacking america. its pretty few and far between.

im not sure what should be done about fascist speech. i recall greenwald and snowden saying "dont let the government censor speech". milo the fascist was invited to bill maher with scahill. so scahill withdrew from the show. im against violence. perhaps if people dont like fascist speech they should show up with signs and boo them. dont you agree? you can look up what these guys say about free speech and ACLU.
But you are characterizing speech you disagree with as fascist. What's fascist is telling others how they must think or you will shut them down. And it doesn't matter where radical Muslims attack, it's happening all over the world. Our government is saying that citizens of countries known to sponsor terror shouldn't be allowed to travel here until fully vetted. They have a duty to protect us. Saying the occasional oddball attack will have to be endured so as to not look racist or islamophobic isn't acceptable. There isn't hysteria going on, just rational precautions.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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But in universities all over the U.S. conservative speakers have been shouted down, and in some cases, like at Berkeley, violent riots have erupted in efforts to silenceconservatives. I know some here like to think their cause is just and pure, butreally what's happening is an effort tocurtail free speech.
There's that persecution complex again.

Everyone is out to get you!

Lol.
 

vantexan

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There's that persecution complex again.

Everyone is out to get you!

Lol.
If allowed the Left would transform the country into a shambles. If you want to know just one reason why you extremists are losing elections it's that most people realize this. Pie in the sky theories, social engineering, social justice warriors running amok over things that happened long ago. I could care less whether you're out to get me. You're out to get the country. And luckily there's enough of us to keep it from happening.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
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DriveInDriveOut

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Open borders, gun free zones, boycott Israel, Iran deal, abortion on demand and not really sure of anything else. You don’t really take time to talk to people, most time you flame them.
Free trade with all, especially our neighbors, is a conservative viewpoint, Republicans are liberal cuckservatives.

I've never advocated gun free zones. I couldn't care less about them. I carry a gun in gun free zones all the time.

I never suggested boycotting Israel. Free trade with all, alliance with none. We need to stop giving them money. That is a conservative position. Same goes for Iran.

I'm against abortion. I'm also against the government telling people what they can do with their bodies. That is a conservative position.




So do you actually have anything you think I'm liberal on? Or are you just confused about what a conservative is?
 
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BrownArmy

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Open borders, gun free zones, boycott Israel, Iran deal, abortion on demand and not really sure of anything else. You don’t really take time to talk to people, most time you flame them.

Who is actually advocating for ‘open borders’?

Boogy-man talking point.
 
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