Ok California. Now what?

newfie

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Just like in hurricane country and low lands that flood all the time. Let people build there but make it against the law to sell homeowners insurance there. I'm tired of having my insurance rates go up and coverages disappearing because those asshats want to build where god don't want them to.
i saw an insurance expert explain the concept of shared liability behind insurance. Problem with that concept is there is no shared benifit to those homes. I'm still waiting for my free vacation in either one.
 

newfie

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Definitely a difficult situation to handle. Sadly it takes big events to get change.
no doubt and i would never say its easy to manage. But i do think they have relied on natures natural tendencies to rain away the fire threat every winter and when that cycle is interrupted they get exposed because they really don't have a good plan to manage it.

for example california knows they will have forest fires somewhere every year. why isnt there a good plan to deploy the military tanker capabilities as an automatic response at the first sign of trouble. the response will never be perfect but it seems like there is so much more they can do.
 

vantexan

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Those on the Right like to point out that California's environmental laws sometimes cause more harm than good.

But one way or another someday no matter what, the Palisades fire was absolutely going to happen.
Hadn't happened up to this point. They had three tanks of water to draw from of a million gallons each. Their reservoir, which holds 117 million gallons, was dry and closed for maintenance and had been for some time. If it was going to happen then it was due to incompetence coupled with extreme conditions. Will burn you every time, no pun intended.
 

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck
no doubt and i would never say its easy to manage. But i do think they have relied on natures natural tendencies to rain away the fire threat every winter and when that cycle is interrupted they get exposed because they really don't have a good plan to manage it.

for example california knows they will have forest fires somewhere every year. why isnt there a good plan to deploy the military tanker capabilities as an automatic response at the first sign of trouble. the response will never be perfect but it seems like there is so much more they can do.

The same could be said about homelessness, drugs, school shootings, gang violence, etc.,etc.….yada, yada yada.
 

newfie

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Hadn't happened up to this point. They had three tanks of water to draw from of a million gallons each. Their reservoir, which holds 117 million gallons, was dry and closed for maintenance and had been for some time. If it was going to happen then it was due to incompetence coupled with extreme conditions. Will burn you every time, no pun intended.

another common sense issue derailed by stupidity. closed the resevoir in february. No managment or drive to ensure it was up for fire season.
 

vantexan

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Just like in hurricane country and low lands that flood all the time. Let people build there but make it against the law to sell homeowners insurance there. I'm tired of having my insurance rates go up and coverages disappearing because those asshats want to build where god don't want them to.
Same goes for people who live on floodplains of major rivers.
 

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck
i would argue its easy to make sure a reservoir is repaired and full of water than it is to manage people issues
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tourists24

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no doubt and i would never say its easy to manage. But i do think they have relied on natures natural tendencies to rain away the fire threat every winter and when that cycle is interrupted they get exposed because they really don't have a good plan to manage it.

for example california knows they will have forest fires somewhere every year. why isnt there a good plan to deploy the military tanker capabilities as an automatic response at the first sign of trouble. the response will never be perfect but it seems like there is so much more they can do.
Kinda reminds me of UPS management planning for peak each year
 

vantexan

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The same could be said about homelessness, drugs, school shootings, gang violence, etc.,etc.….yada, yada yada.
And that's why nothing of consequence ever gets done. Whenever who's in charge gets called out for incompetence people who support that political party come rushing to their defense. But this time what got exposed is the stupidity of environmental extremists who put everyone at risk with their policies.
 

Gotta Go

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And since everything already burned to the ground...
They won't need a fire department anymore...
So they can save even more money!!!
 

MAKAVELI

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Hadn't happened up to this point. They had three tanks of water to draw from of a million gallons each. Their reservoir, which holds 117 million gallons, was dry and closed for maintenance and had been for some time. If it was going to happen then it was due to incompetence coupled with extreme conditions. Will burn you every time, no pun intended.
Each home would require 3-4 engines for 10,000 structures. The reservoir would have minimal impact in hurricane force winds.
 

Doublestandards

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i saw an insurance expert explain the concept of shared liability behind insurance. Problem with that concept is there is no shared benifit to those homes. I'm still waiting for my free vacation in either one.
What were they saying? I’m guessing that people in areas without high risk of fires have to eat some of the added costs for those living in areas with high risk? Or something else?
 

MAKAVELI

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It's the wind stupid.
 

MAKAVELI

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