One big happy family 🙃

[Lates]

So if express is having problems getting people , double that for ground. Right ? Get under one roof , quality pay will come with quality drivers and build the brand back

I understand what you are wanting to happen which would be good for us all but they are going the opposite direction. It isn’t the same company that employees used to incredibly loyal to. It’s awful people been there 20 plus years are going to be unemployed unless they can find a transfer. But there isn’t enough opening for everyone who is being “displaced” as they call it.

 

[Gone fishin]

I understand what you are wanting to happen which would be good for us all but they are going the opposite direction. It isn’t the same company that employees used to incredibly loyal to. It’s awful people been there 20 plus years are going to be unemployed unless they can find a transfer. But there isn’t enough opening for everyone who is being “displaced” as they call it.

That’s why the changes need to happen. To tell the truth , I’m about out. Whatever happens won’t affect me , I just hate it for the younger guys.

 

[Cactus]

I’m talking about vehicle capacity. I have a ton of extra. Express doesn’t have vehicles for their current volume. Ttku

Well you’ll be doing your share of trying to keep up once your staff all quits because of the war that’s gonna start between Express and Ground. Sure you can fill those vehicles up all you want but finding enough bodies to drive them is another matter. Have fun delivering packages out there in BFE.

 

[bacha29]

This is essentially how it will work when we move into the Ground station at the end of May. We were told we would be delivering FO, DG, ASR, and “certain medical shipments.” We will be picking up dropboxes, DG, and bulk Express pups of 200 pieces or more. Ground is doing everything else.

And they actually believe that the two of them are going to get along together. Clear evidence of just how far detached executives and senior management are from everyday operations.

Suppose you're a contractor. What do you think the reaction is going to be from your help when they discover just a few feet away are a group of guys making more per hour with benefits and have a shorter duration less labor intensive day ? They're going to have to put up a partition just to keep them apart from one another.

Or the building isn't big enough to park both Express and Ground trucks inside. So who's drivers are going to be left standing out in the rain loading their trucks themselves because handlers have been sent home? Here's a clue...It won't be Express. And who's trucks will be parked outside overnight and weekend in zero temps and won't start in the morning...It won't be Express.

Or you're a contractor and you caved into management's demands and you bought the biggest straight truck on the market to haul bulk only to discover that Express is taking it off of you despite the fact that you still owe on it for 3 more years.

What you're going to end up with in terminals under this arrangement is your own little caste system. Management has always had zero acknowledgement or respect for the fact that they had to ask you to invest your own money into this cluster fornication.

So goes oil as expected hits $100 so goes free ecommerce shipping.

The company knows it and knows that they are in one hell of vulnerable position. And the high profile, highly publicized so called "restructuring" is a con designed to try to keep the stock price from tanking while they desperately seek a genuine solution.

 

[yadig]

And they actually believe that the two of them are going to get along together. Clear evidence of just how far detached executives and senior management are from everyday operations.

Suppose you're a contractor. What do you think the reaction is going to be from your help when they discover just a few feet away are a group of guys making more per hour with benefits and have a shorter duration less labor intensive day ? They're going to have to put up a partition just to keep them apart from one another.

Or the building isn't big enough to park both Express and Ground trucks inside. So who's drivers are going to be left standing out in the rain loading their trucks themselves because handlers have been sent home? Here's a clue...It won't be Express. And who's trucks will be parked outside overnight and weekend in zero temps and won't start in the morning...It won't be Express.

Or you're a contractor and you caved into management's demands and you bought the biggest straight truck on the market to haul bulk only to discover that Express is taking it off of you despite the fact that you still owe on it for 3 more years.

What you're going to end up with in terminals under this arrangement is your own little caste system. Management has always had zero acknowledgement or respect for the fact that they had to ask you to invest your own money into this cluster fornication.

So goes oil as expected hits $100 so goes free ecommerce shipping.

The company knows it and knows that they are in one hell of vulnerable position. And the high profile, highly publicized so called "restructuring" is a con designed to try to keep the stock price from tanking while they desperately seek a genuine solution.

I agree and it’s not healthy to have division in a company. Morale is gonna get worse if they go to an all contractor model. I don’t really interact with many ground drivers and it seems they keep their distance also. I have more conversations with ups guys/gals and help them out with directions. I’m a rtd though and it may be different between the couriers.

 

[Aquaman]

There is this weird belief that making Ground drivers into FedEx employees is a solution to something that is never adequately explained.

No matter what happens it’s going to be a disaster. Very little at this company is executed well. E-Star, response, step plan, TNT purchase… it’s all a mess, every time. Business as usual is horrible to say to someone when they’ve got their whole life tied up in this company. I wish they would just tell people the truth and stop trying to trick them into staying.

 

[zeev]

Tricking people into staying will be priority 1 at Express. i’m sure they will be told if you work real hard we might keep you. The truth is no one will compete with the cheap contractor model. The question is will the one year contract contractor model survive. Large semi truck companies built their fortunes on the owner operator system but the decline in willing suckers has forced many back to employees.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Tricking people into staying will be priority 1 at Express. i’m sure they will be told if you work real hard we might keep you. The truth is no one will compete with the cheap contractor model. The question is will the one year contract contractor model survive. Large semi truck companies built their fortunes on the owner operator system but the decline in willing suckers has forced many back to employees.

Too bad, you could not organize a national walk out.

 

[Gone fishin]

Tricking people into staying will be priority 1 at Express. i’m sure they will be told if you work real hard we might keep you. The truth is no one will compete with the cheap contractor model. The question is will the one year contract contractor model survive. Large semi truck companies built their fortunes on the owner operator system but the decline in willing suckers has forced many back to employees.

This whole thing could take years. I’m also thinking test markets on if it can even work

 

[bacha29]

Too bad, you could not organize a national walk out.

Clearly illustrates the need to keep your people together. And it will be put to the test in the coming months.

 

[Aquaman]

Too bad, you could not organize a national walk out.

There’s too many people still here from when this was a good job. A lot of the higher seniority people didn’t save a dime. Make good money. And have the easiest routes. So staging a walkout would be almost impossible when half the drivers have it made and half do not.

 

[Thebrownblob]

There’s too many people still here from when this was a good job. A lot of the higher seniority people didn’t save a dime. Make good money. And have the easiest routes. So staging a walkout would be almost impossible when half the drivers have it made and half do not.

Yeah, I’m aware and I understand that, but it seems they can’t see past the nose on their face. The sharp knives are out, and they cannot even hear the clanking of them rubbing together for them.

 

[!Retired!]

 

[Aquaman]

Yeah, I’m aware and I understand that, but it seems they can’t see past the nose on their face. The sharp knives are out, and they cannot even hear the clanking of them rubbing together for them.

This has been on the horizon for forever. That has created a lot of delusion at this place. The old “I’ll believe it when I see it”. This company is going to layoff a big chunk of Express and eliminate a lot of full time positions. Routes will be cut, managment will shrink. That’s what’s going to happen. Express doesn’t save a dime at its current size.

 

[lilwizbiz]

This has been on the horizon for forever. That has created a lot of delusion at this place. The old “I’ll believe it when I see it”. This company is going to layoff a big chunk of Express and eliminate a lot of full time positions. Routes will be cut, managment will shrink. That’s what’s going to happen. Express doesn’t save a dime at its current size.

Express is the highest revenue branch of FedEx

 

[deadman]

Express is the highest revenue branch of FedEx

Yet lowest profit by dollar total and percentage.

 

[fedx]

Has anyone at Express seen them purchase a new step van in the last few years? Around here they aren’t even replacing the sprinters.

I could handle all the Express volume in my area tomorrow without having to purchase a single truck. It’s crazy talk to think they’ll move to an employee model.

I noticed a local station where I'm at bought a bunch of new vehicles late last year and they were all Sprinters instead of Isuzu Reaches. I thought at the time they must be anticipating hauling less volume. I knew it was because they were going to shift packages to Ground.

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

Suppose you're a contractor. What do you think the reaction is going to be from your help when they discover just a few feet away are a group of guys making more per hour with benefits and have a shorter duration less labor intensive day ? They're going to have to put up a partition just to keep them apart from one another.

Or the building isn't big enough to park both Express and Ground trucks inside. So who's drivers are going to be left standing out in the rain loading their trucks themselves because handlers have been sent home? Here's a clue...It won't be Express. And who's trucks will be parked outside overnight and weekend in zero temps and won't start in the morning.

Welcome to UPS...

 

[Aquaman]

Express is the highest revenue branch of FedEx

Revenue and profit are different things.

 

[lilwizbiz]

Revenue and profit are different things.

Other than the last 2 quarters Express has also been the most profitable branch of FedEx.