Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[vantexan]

Ford sucks. We leased 4 150s, 2 years ago at work. Switching from Toyota Tacomas. 3 of the 4 fords blew head gaskets. The 4 th had air conditioning problems. All had various problems. The suck, plastic, and cheap.

I've been partial to Ford having owned 2 of their cars and a pickup over the years. Had real high hopes for the little hybrid Maverick they recently released. Well they went cheap and had them built in Mexico. Things were selling out, selling like hotcakes. And now they're having all kinds of issues. Ford just recommended that if your hybrid Maverick is making funny noises shut it down and walk away immediately! There's typical Ford issues then there's the Maverick. Taking stupidity to new heights.

 

[vantexan]

While the Cyber may be superior to the Ford in every way, trying to educate the average motorist would be an extremely tough thing to do. Better to stick to what they know.

Average motorist? Pickup drivers overall aren't average. If they can advertise Ford tough or Chevy like a rock then they can run ads demonstrating superiority. Assuming they are.

 

[newolddude]

Average motorist? Pickup drivers overall aren't average. If they can advertise Ford tough or Chevy like a rock then they can run ads demonstrating superiority. Assuming they are.

Pickup trucks and SUV are sold through affinity marketing.

How many ads show trucks climbing mountains, forging rivers and hauling massive cargo when a high majority of truck owners will never do any of that?

I know far too many people who own trucks but they've never left the pavement, never towed and barely hauled anything in the back.

 

[newolddude]

I've been partial to Ford having owned 2 of their cars and a pickup over the years. Had real high hopes for the little hybrid Maverick they recently released. Well they went cheap and had them built in Mexico. Things were selling out, selling like hotcakes. And now they're having all kinds of issues. Ford just recommended that if your hybrid Maverick is making funny noises shut it down and walk away immediately! There's typical Ford issues then there's the Maverick. Taking stupidity to new heights.

Nuts.

Dealer Marks Up 2022 Ford Maverick by Nearly $22K, the Price of Another Maverick [UPDATED]

Ford's hot new compact truck is certainly a target of markups, but a $20K "market adjustment" is among the highest we've seen.

www.thedrive.com

 

[newolddude]

Yeah, you're right-----vapor exhaust is stupid.

Water vapor as exhaust is nice. The problem is generating hydrogen takes a ton of energy where in the end it's no better (or even worse) than fossil fuels. And then in-vehicle the loss from turning hydrogen in to energy to move the car is again highly ineeficient.

 

[vantexan]

Pickup trucks and SUV are sold through affinity marketing.

How many ads show trucks climbing mountains, forging rivers and hauling massive cargo when a high majority of truck owners will never do any of that?

I know far too many people who own trucks but they've never left the pavement, never towed and barely hauled anything in the back.

Yet millions of people every day use trucks on the job. Haul tools, feed, you name it. If the Cyber Truck is superior in every way instead of just claims of such there should be no problem competing for that huge business.

 

[newolddude]

Yet millions of people every day use trucks on the job. Haul tools, feed, you name it. If the Cyber Truck is superior in every way instead of just claims of such there should be no problem competing for that huge business.

Yes and those people/companies are buying base/near base trucks because they're doing real work. The work that moves this country. Go to a Chevy or Ford dealership and try to find a base work truck for sale on the lot. If there is one it will relegated to the back corner and the salesmen will barely acknowledge it exists. I'm not bemoaning those trucks. Those trucks need to stay gal/diesel.

I'm talking about the cowboy Cadillacs. The $60,000+ King Ranch, Denalis etc that don't haul tools, feed, mulch, lumber etc. The trucks that are trucks but are treated like cars.

 

[vantexan]

I'm talking about the cowboy Cadillacs. The $60,000+ King Ranch, Denalis etc that don't haul tools, feed, mulch, lumber etc. The trucks that are trucks but are treated like cars.

And? They're super expensive like the Cyber Truck. If the Cyber Truck is superior in every way given how they're used then why aren't they being built? All kinds of claims made on this thread but where are the trucks?

 

[newolddude]

And? They're super expensive like the Cyber Truck. If the Cyber Truck is superior in every way given how they're used then why aren't they being built? All kinds of claims made on this thread but where are the trucks?

Elon Musk has a track record of making promises and not delivering.
-Cybertuck
-$30,000ish Tesla
-buy Twitter and bringing back Trump

 

[Babagounj]

Well he is adding an addition to his factory.
It will only consume another 68 acres.

 

[wilberforce15]

@wilberforce15

On his way to work.... a part-time preload job.


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Mad that I don't have to work as much as you?

 

[wilberforce15]

...or necessary....this is obviously a Ford Transit wrapped with the Tesla. Bug's thinly veiled point was the absurdity of a Tesla vehicle having to buy gas.

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Why?

A coal powered EV is still more efficient than gas.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Why?

A coal powered EV is still more efficient than gas.

You completely missed his point. The optics of this picture are funny.

 

[wilberforce15]

Elon Musk has a track record of making promises and not delivering.
-Cybertuck
-$30,000ish Tesla
-buy Twitter and bringing back Trump

The cybertruck and 30k Tesla aren't broken promises.

He lays out plans 10x faster than anyone on earth can deliver. Then when he follows through at 3x faster than anyone can deliver, he gets crap.

Fastest growing car manufacturer in history, including faster than the Model T ramp up, and yall complain.

 

[wilberforce15]

You completely missed his point. The optics of this picture are funny.

I don't get why.

Tesla uses diesel trucks. And diesel construction equipment. And gas vans. Etc. Etc.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I don't get why.

Tesla uses diesel trucks. And diesel construction equipment. And gas vans. Etc. Etc.

You are overthinking it. Thankfully, BUG rarely, if ever, overthinks anything.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

 

[newolddude]

I live in a major metro area. The Tesla solar roof and solar panels are not available.

 

[wilberforce15]

I live in a major metro area. The Tesla solar roof and solar panels are not available.

Same for most people.

 

[BlackFriday]

Fwiw this number is dead on for my area. I've counted 3 times and get 5%.