Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[Fred's Myth]

Another Death Knell:

“This means that by 2030 there will be an additional demand for LCE (lithium carbonate) of 2.8M to 3.3M tons. By comparison, the world's current largest producer Albemarle (ALB) produced 120k tons of LCE in 2021. This means that in 2030, the world will need an additional 25 times the amount currently produced by the largest producer. However, lithium mines, whether hard rock mining or evaporation ponds have years of lead time. The IEA warns that the world may face a potential shortage of lithium as early as 2025.”

 

[bottomups]

Another Death Knell:

“This means that by 2030 there will be an additional demand for LCE (lithium carbonate) of 2.8M to 3.3M tons. By comparison, the world's current largest producer Albemarle (ALB) produced 120k tons of LCE in 2021. This means that in 2030, the world will need an additional 25 times the amount currently produced by the largest producer. However, lithium mines, whether hard rock mining or evaporation ponds have years of lead time. The IEA warns that the world may face a potential shortage of lithium as early as 2025.”

And we were going to potentially run out of diesel last month.

 

[vantexan]

And we were going to potentially run out of diesel last month.

When supplies are low on anything the tried and true method to slow down consumption is high prices. In case you haven't noticed diesel is much more expensive than gas now. I know it's a shock to have anyone point out problems that need to be addressed when you're used to the liberal media glossing over all problems that might harm a liberal administration. Without a doubt we'd hear shouting from the rooftops if Trump was in power.

 

[Babagounj]

Since Tesla has not confirmed how much their batteries weigh in their semi-truck , there might be major limitations on the amount of cargo they can carry.
A semi truck & cargo can not be over 40 tons ( 80,000 lbs ).

Which truck stops will be installing the needed charging stations and at who's expense.
Since trucking is all about delivery & time, how long will it take to recharge one of these EV semi ?

Estimates of the cost are upwards of $400K , which is more than double what a regular semi costs.

 

[wilberforce15]

Since Tesla has not confirmed how much their batteries weigh in their semi-truck , there might be major limitations on the amount of cargo they can carry.
A semi truck & cargo can not be over 40 tons ( 80,000 lbs ).

Which truck stops will be installing the needed charging stations and at who's expense.
Since trucking is all about delivery & time, how long will it take to recharge one of these EV semi ?

Estimates of the cost are upwards of $400K , which is more than double what a regular semi costs.

Combined gross can be 82,000 lbs for Tesla.

A 400k truck would save operators boatloads of money. That's unbelievably cheap which is why the line is so long for them. It's not just massive fuel savings. It's the maintenance and reliability that really makes it a money-maker.

Truck stops won't need the charging stations. The purpose of these trucks isn't to cross the country. It's perfect for the kind of thing UPS does, with 50-500 mile runs at a time between known and consistent locations.

 

[wilberforce15]

Another Death Knell:

“This means that by 2030 there will be an additional demand for LCE (lithium carbonate) of 2.8M to 3.3M tons. By comparison, the world's current largest producer Albemarle (ALB) produced 120k tons of LCE in 2021. This means that in 2030, the world will need an additional 25 times the amount currently produced by the largest producer. However, lithium mines, whether hard rock mining or evaporation ponds have years of lead time. The IEA warns that the world may face a potential shortage of lithium as early as 2025.”

Capitalism is amazing.
When there is a shortage, price goes up.
As price goes up, producers are incentivized to find productive capacity.

 

[wilberforce15]

Since Tesla has not confirmed how much their batteries weigh in their semi-truck , there might be major limitations on the amount of cargo they can carry.
A semi truck & cargo can not be over 40 tons ( 80,000 lbs ).

Which truck stops will be installing the needed charging stations and at who's expense.
Since trucking is all about delivery & time, how long will it take to recharge one of these EV semi ?

Estimates of the cost are upwards of $400K , which is more than double what a regular semi costs.

The Staggering Economics of the Tesla Semi

The economics of the Tesla semi show that it is about 83% cheaper to drive and haul goods than a standard diesel truck. Not to mention the reduction in cost due to less maintenance. The Tesla semi will truly disrupt the trucking industry.

www.torquenews.com

Any sane person would pay 500k for a Tesla semi or more, if it fits their operational needs. It's that much better and cheaper to operate.

 

[Babagounj]

The Staggering Economics of the Tesla Semi

The economics of the Tesla semi show that it is about 83% cheaper to drive and haul goods than a standard diesel truck. Not to mention the reduction in cost due to less maintenance. The Tesla semi will truly disrupt the trucking industry.

www.torquenews.com

Any sane person would pay 500k for a Tesla semi or more, if it fits their operational needs. It's that much better and cheaper to operate.

Again what is the recharging rate for a EV semi ?

 

[wilberforce15]

Again what is the recharging rate for a EV semi ?

Why do you say "again"?

The target for mega chargers is 400 miles of range added in 30 minutes. For most buyers, That will create no operational delay.

And that is fully loaded range, at 82,000 lb gross combined.

 

[vantexan]

Capitalism is amazing.
When there is a shortage, price goes up.
As price goes up, producers are incentivized to find productive capacity.

Where are they finding enough supply? Incentives only work if you can capitalize on them.

 

[wilberforce15]

Where are they finding enough supply? Incentives only work if you can capitalize on them.

Probably from seawater. It is only a matter of technological development for economical extraction. There are trillions of dollars at stake, so people are likely to figure it out when there is such a huge reward.

We have more than enough lithium for hundreds of years of electric vehicle domination. This isn't even that big of a deal. But you were just fixated on finding some kind of problem.

 

[bottomups]

Better batteries and nuclear fusion and we'll be all set.

 

[vantexan]

Probably from seawater. It is only a matter of technological development for economical extraction. There are trillions of dollars at stake, so people are likely to figure it out when there is such a huge reward.

We have more than enough lithium for hundreds of years of electric vehicle domination. This isn't even that big of a deal. But you were just fixated on finding some kind of problem.

There are a lot of ingredients in an EV beyond lithium. You're in denial.

 

[vantexan]

Better batteries and nuclear fusion and we'll be all set.

Nuclear fusion won't be commercially viable until at least 2100 if ever.

 

[Ou812fu]

"Only 1%
"Only 3%"
"Only 5%"
"Only 10%"
"Onlu 25%"
"Only 50%"

Sorry, I'm filling in your thread titles for the next few years.

All the objections just betray ignorance. The range on many electrics is identical to gas already. They're more convenient to charge than to fill up with gas, and cost-parity is imminent.

Ignorance is ignoring the long charge times. The mileage you get per a charge, both on hot and cold days. Also the lack of having charges in places to sit and eat as you say.

 

[vantexan]

Probably from seawater. It is only a matter of technological development for economical extraction. There are trillions of dollars at stake, so people are likely to figure it out when there is such a huge reward.

We have more than enough lithium for hundreds of years of electric vehicle domination. This isn't even that big of a deal. But you were just fixated on finding some kind of problem.

Here's something for you. 3 out of every 4 ounces of silver produced are a byproduct of other metals mined. If we go into a serious recession, or worse, a lot of mining production will decrease substantially. If so the amount of silver will greatly decrease. Silver is absolutely essential to EV production. Good luck with that.

 

[newolddude]

The 2023 Toyota Prius Can Be Ordered With a Catalytic Converter Shield

The MillerCAT shield costs $140, and you'll have to pay extra for installation. However, you may not ever have to pay for another catalytic converter.

jalopnik.com

 

[Babagounj]

The 2023 Toyota Prius Can Be Ordered With a Catalytic Converter Shield

The MillerCAT shield costs $140, and you'll have to pay extra for installation. However, you may not ever have to pay for another catalytic converter.

jalopnik.com

It's easier to have you VIN imprinted on the cc.
Or

Mass. police department starts new program to protect catalytic converters

The catalytic converters are a target of many thefts because of the precious metals inside of them.

www.wcvb.com

 

[Babagounj]

New electric car buying incentives kick in Jan. 1, and a lot has changed. Here’s an explainer.

The rules are evolving. That means that the best time to buy an EV depends on everything from which car you want to your current income. We break it down for...

www.marketwatch.com

 

[oldngray]

Tesla ‘full self-driving’ triggered an eight-car crash, a driver tells police​

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/business/tesla-fsd-8-car-crash/index.html