Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[rickyb]

Have you seen the cost of ebikes that can do 225 miles? And as I pointed out in the cold those batteries drain quickly. And if somehow you could add a heating device inside an enclosed frame the weight of the enclosure, the wind resistance it would have, and the heater itself would drain the battery in no time. All the research in the world won't change that.

of course the batteries keep getting better.

no i didnt check the cost. 6500 usd. still way cheaper than the cheapest new car.

 

[Thebrownblob]

of course the batteries keep getting better.

no i didnt check the cost. 6500 usd. still way cheaper than the cheapest new car.

I can buy a pretty nice used car with $6500

 

[vantexan]

of course the batteries keep getting better.

no i didnt check the cost. 6500 usd. still way cheaper than the cheapest new car.

For a bike that won't perform well in many conditions. There's no heater on that bike either. Good luck in the winter.

 

[rickyb]

For a bike that won't perform well in many conditions. There's no heater on that bike either. Good luck in the winter.

so build something contained with a heater.

it could be 4 wheels too.

 

[vantexan]

so build something contained with a heater.

it could be 4 wheels too.

They're already doing four wheel EV's. And I've already told you.that a heater would drain the battery very quickly.

 

[rickyb]

I can buy a pretty nice used car with $6500

base model sub compact japanese a few years old will go for 20,000 or so here

 

[rickyb]

They're already doing four wheel EV's. And I've already told you.that a heater would drain the battery very quickly.

not sure about that.

 

[vantexan]

not sure about that.

It's called physics.

 

[trickpony1]

It's called physics.

I agree.
Anything that produces heat uses a lot of electricity

 

[rickyb]

It's called physics.

i would guess it can handle the distance of 225 miles lol.

 

[vantexan]

i would guess it can handle the distance of 225 miles lol.

Do you not read posts? 225 miles is under optimal conditions. Rider weight, temperature, hills, wind resistance all factor in how long the battery will last. Ebike batteries are a lot smaller than EV batteries. And again, there is no cover for the rider on that bike. Nor a heater. Not one ebike on the market with a heater. So let's see how you do in minus 20° in winter. Won't be too long and you'd want a car.

 

[Thebrownblob]

base model sub compact japanese a few years old will go for 20,000 or so here

Picked up a 2010 Toyota Avalon with 120,000 mile on it for $6000 not long ago. Beautiful car. And will probably run another 10 years.

 

[UnionStrong]

Do you not read posts? 225 miles is under optimal conditions. Rider weight, temperature, hills, wind resistance all factor in how long the battery will last. Ebike batteries are a lot smaller than EV batteries. And again, there is no cover for the rider on that bike. Nor a heater. Not one ebike on the market with a heater. So let's see how you do in minus 20° in winter. Won't be too long and you'd want a car.

Plus they catch fire.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Plus they catch fire.

So you want @rickyb to have one for sure, right?

 

[UnionStrong]

So you want @rickyb to have one for sure, right?

I hope he keeps it in his bedroom

 

[rickyb]

Picked up a 2010 Toyota Avalon with 120,000 mile on it for $6000 not long ago. Beautiful car. And will probably run another 10 years.

yea i agree you could get another 10 years on it. when did you buy it?

 

[Thebrownblob]

yea i agree you could get another 10 years on it. when did you buy it?

December bought it for my daughters fiancé who was away at the army for a while. He bought it back for me when he got home.

 

[rickyb]

Do you not read posts? 225 miles is under optimal conditions. Rider weight, temperature, hills, wind resistance all factor in how long the battery will last. Ebike batteries are a lot smaller than EV batteries. And again, there is no cover for the rider on that bike. Nor a heater. Not one ebike on the market with a heater. So let's see how you do in minus 20° in winter. Won't be too long and you'd want a car.

225 miles is a lot. at most people will go 180 miles a day. and if they cant, suck it.

you know people didnt always have cars. jesus doesnt want us to trash the planet and for us to devolve into barbarism.

the planet has warmed 1.5 degrees.

the govt can either get serious and invest in batteries / transit or face hell on earth. its an easy choice.

 

[rickyb]

December bought it for my daughters fiancé who was away at the army for a while. He bought it back for me when he got home.

i wish my car was more like an avalon except keep my sporty handling

 

[Thebrownblob]

i wish my car was more like an avalon except keep my sporty handling

I drove the Avalon for a little bit. It had some get up and go I think almost 270hp. Not too shabby.