Palestinian-Israel Conflict (War?)
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tourists24
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Nope. You don't attack Israel and you can live.
And Jesus will forgive anyone that in their heart is seeking forgiveness, but you need to want it and believe he can do it. But why does that matter to you? You won't go to heaven by just believing what Jesus would do
secondly i dont think you can stop terrorism by killing over 100,000 civilians. that likely will create terrorism
in addition israel has killed 80x the number hamas killed on oct 7. so israel is much worse on that alone.
jesus has standards. you can not just be forgiven for anything. you have to have some self control, and moral strength.
tourists24
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Then the cycle of fighting will be ongoing like it has been for years, years, and years. Israel is not going to stop til Hamas is done and terrorist groups will not stop using your logic. So on it goes.
And yes, Jesus can forgive anything. None of us are deserving as sinners, but no sin is too big for his forgiveness. Open to anyone for anything if you put faith in him. Again, unlike what you believe in your own morality, you don't get to assign Jesus status
actually i do, jesus has standards. if you do something bad, you damn well better more htan make it up! jesus is monitoring your behavior.
israel supported and funded hamas. when you kill people for their ethnicity, terrorism may very well persist. so israel should just stop and seek forgiveness for the 100,000+ dead and the concentration camps, previous ethnic cleansings, land theft, and poor treatment of arabs.
israel would never lie LOL!!!
US intelligence casts doubt on Israeli claims of UNRWA-Hamas links, report says
Intel report says some accusations that aid workers participated in Hamas attacks credible but could not be independently verifiedwww.theguardian.com
tourists24
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You really don't know how Jesus works do you? You think you do but you really don't. For some reason you think that works alone is all it takes. Understandable but very mistaken. That somehow He's keeping a tab running with a good act bad act slide rule. Very sad you are so hellbent on believing you have a better way than salvation itself, and the path forward from there
being uniformed, supporting evil (100,000+ innocent dead, egyptian and israeli concentration camps, racism), and then just talking to jesus and acting like you will be forgiven is delusional.
jesus sees through your logic that killing 100,000+ somehow doesnt make you a terrorist or a bigger terrorist.
trump screwed up that area good too!
Ralph Nader isn't Jesus. He doesn't know how many have died. Pretty much the same as Iraq where it was being claimed the U.S. killed over a million people. The Iraqi census didn't show a million less people in their count. But propagandists use anything to try to make the other side quit. Hamas did terrible things on October 7th, and this carnage is squarely on them. Israel doesn't want more Oct. 7 like attacks, and Hamas said they intend to do more. You reap what you sow.
tourists24
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reread my post. Never did I say just talking to Jesus does anything of the sort; nor will assigning condemnation from you for not agreeing with your statements bring any doom except in your own mind. Like I said, you really don't understand how Jesus, actions, and forgiveness works.
this started oct 7 lol?
ralph nader is close and he was pushed to the margins for fighting evil.
you have to fight nuclear war. you have to fight pollution. you can not do nothing. he doesnt want lazy people.
tourists24
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this chapter of the novel started Oct 7th yes.
Ralph Nader isn't in Gaza and has no idea how many have died. Most Gazans are at the Egyptian border.
wrong. the story began 75 to 100 years ago roughly.
you dont have to be there to know. chris hedges was there recently again. what does he say
They weren't in Gaza. And, even if they were, which they aren't, one man or even 5 men couldn't possibly get a count.you dont have to be there to know. chris hedges was there recently again. what does he say
tourists24
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And if you truly believed in Jesus, you pray and ask him to guide you and your actions when trying to accomplish your objectives. But that's only if you have put your faith in him. You love to insert him into the conversation but only as it advances YOUR wishes that you desire to happen. Again, not how it works with Jesus.
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