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Whereas Wisconsin's conservative government wanted to gut our open records law.
Gov. Walker and Wisconsin GOP retreat on open records limits

July 4, 2015 5:22 PM


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President Barack Obama is greeted by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker as he arrives on Air Force One at La Crosse Regional Airport, Thursday, July 2, 2015, in La Crosse, Wis. The president is en route to the University of Wisconsin at La Crosse where he is to speak about the economy and promote a proposed Labor Department rule that would make more workers eligible for overtime. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — In a sudden reversal amid a stinging backlash, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and GOP legislative leaders said they agreed Saturday to completely remove a part of the proposed state budget that would severely roll back open records laws.


Walker announced the decision in a joint statement Saturday with Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, and the co-chairs of the joint budget committee. They said that they're committed to open and accountable government.

"After substantive discussion over the last day, we have agreed that the provisions relating to any changes in the state's open records law will be removed from the budget in its entirety," the statement said. "... The intended policy goal of these changes was to provide a reasonable solution to protect constituents' privacy and to encourage a deliberative process between elected officials and their staff in developing policy. It was never intended to inhibit transparent government in any way."

The restrictions, which Republicans on the Legislature's Joint Finance Committee slipped into the proposed budget late Thursday, would shield nearly everything created by state and local government officials from Wisconsin's open records law, including drafts of legislation and staff communications. The proposal drew heavy criticism from liberals and conservatives alike, and was the subject of a withering front-page editorial in Saturday's Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The sudden furor had become a serious distraction for Walker as he prepares to formally announce his candidacy for the GOP presidential nomination on July 13. He told reporters before an Independence Day parade in the Milwaukee suburb of Wauwatosa on Saturday morning that he planned to discuss the matter with legislative leaders after the weekend, the Journal Sentinel reported.

"My hope is, that after talking with them on Monday, we get to the point where it's either out completely or there's significant changes to it," he said.

The joint statement, issued at mid-afternoon on Saturday, made it clear that they didn't wait. The statement said the Legislature will form a committee to study the issue and allow for public discussion and input outside of the budget process.

Walker didn't specifically say in Wauwatosa whether he and his office were involved in crafting the proposed changes, whether he objected to them in advance, or specifically say who proposed the overhaul. The joint statement didn't address those points either.

Among the issues that have dogged Walker recently is the performance of a job creation agency he championed. The Wisconsin State Journal used the open records law that Republicans wanted to tighten to report in May that the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation made a loan to one of Walker's top donors. That report led other media organizations, including The Associated Press, to look into the matter, and the agency also came under scrutiny from the Legislature.

Walker's pre-parade comments were echoed by some Republican legislators Saturday, including two who voted for the changes just two days earlier.

Sen. Alberta Darling, co-chairwoman of the powerful budget committee, said they are now "working to eliminate" the open records limits.

"We are going to get rid of that," Darling said at Fox Point's Fourth of July parade.

And Rep. Dale Kooyenga said at Wauwatosa's parade that lawmakers were working on changes.
 

brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
Whereas Wisconsin's conservative government wanted to gut our open records law.
Gov. Walker and Wisconsin GOP retreat on open records limits

July 4, 2015 5:22 PM


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View photo

President Barack Obama is greeted by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker as he arrives on Air Force One at La Crosse Regional Airport, Thursday, July 2, 2015, in La Crosse, Wis. The president is en route to the University of Wisconsin at La Crosse where he is to speak about the economy and promote a proposed Labor Department rule that would make more workers eligible for overtime. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — In a sudden reversal amid a stinging backlash, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and GOP legislative leaders said they agreed Saturday to completely remove a part of the proposed state budget that would severely roll back open records laws.


Walker announced the decision in a joint statement Saturday with Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, and the co-chairs of the joint budget committee. They said that they're committed to open and accountable government.

"After substantive discussion over the last day, we have agreed that the provisions relating to any changes in the state's open records law will be removed from the budget in its entirety," the statement said. "... The intended policy goal of these changes was to provide a reasonable solution to protect constituents' privacy and to encourage a deliberative process between elected officials and their staff in developing policy. It was never intended to inhibit transparent government in any way."

The restrictions, which Republicans on the Legislature's Joint Finance Committee slipped into the proposed budget late Thursday, would shield nearly everything created by state and local government officials from Wisconsin's open records law, including drafts of legislation and staff communications. The proposal drew heavy criticism from liberals and conservatives alike, and was the subject of a withering front-page editorial in Saturday's Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The sudden furor had become a serious distraction for Walker as he prepares to formally announce his candidacy for the GOP presidential nomination on July 13. He told reporters before an Independence Day parade in the Milwaukee suburb of Wauwatosa on Saturday morning that he planned to discuss the matter with legislative leaders after the weekend, the Journal Sentinel reported.

"My hope is, that after talking with them on Monday, we get to the point where it's either out completely or there's significant changes to it," he said.

The joint statement, issued at mid-afternoon on Saturday, made it clear that they didn't wait. The statement said the Legislature will form a committee to study the issue and allow for public discussion and input outside of the budget process.

Walker didn't specifically say in Wauwatosa whether he and his office were involved in crafting the proposed changes, whether he objected to them in advance, or specifically say who proposed the overhaul. The joint statement didn't address those points either.

Among the issues that have dogged Walker recently is the performance of a job creation agency he championed. The Wisconsin State Journal used the open records law that Republicans wanted to tighten to report in May that the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation made a loan to one of Walker's top donors. That report led other media organizations, including The Associated Press, to look into the matter, and the agency also came under scrutiny from the Legislature.

Walker's pre-parade comments were echoed by some Republican legislators Saturday, including two who voted for the changes just two days earlier.

Sen. Alberta Darling, co-chairwoman of the powerful budget committee, said they are now "working to eliminate" the open records limits.

"We are going to get rid of that," Darling said at Fox Point's Fourth of July parade.

And Rep. Dale Kooyenga said at Wauwatosa's parade that lawmakers were working on changes.
Walker, a true champion of the people.
 

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Walker is the clown who demands that Ms. Clinton releases all of her e-mails but sneaks new laws into the budget so he doesn't have to do the same.
HYPOCRITE!!!!!
 

wkmac

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First 6 plus minutes poses the thought of what will a pro life voter do should Jeb Bush be the nominee? The other question should be as to if or what effect did the Bush family have in suppressing the pro life agenda within the republican party for the last 30 plus years? And other than pure lip service, was the GOP really committed to the pro life cause or just out for corralling that vote? What say you pro lifers?

 

newfie

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Legally, abortion isn't murder. That means our society must accept the law or change it. I don't see it changing. Do I like abortion? No. I also do not want to live in a theocracy where a religious order tells the rest of us to accept their beliefs.

Abortion is legal, and this is an excellent example of why we have a separation of church and state.

you either chose to ignore my point or completely missed it. When you make the must argument to a Christian as to what they must do the teachings of God will always take precedent over the law of the land. Their must is always the moral teachings of God. The law of the land In this case is immorally in support of the act of murder. The law of the land is not always right as the many laws of a Nazi Germany or a Stalinist Russia would bear witness to. Just because those who are immoral have somehow convinced the supreme court that selective murder is ok does not make it so.
 

newfie

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First 6 plus minutes poses the thought of what will a pro life voter do should Jeb Bush be the nominee? The other question should be as to if or what effect did the Bush family have in suppressing the pro life agenda within the republican party for the last 30 plus years? And other than pure lip service, was the GOP really committed to the pro life cause or just out for corralling that vote? What say you pro lifers?


Its a fantasy to dwell in perhaps but a non issue otherwise. Mr. Rodgers does not have the ability to become the Rupublican nominee nor the fortitude to do anything about the current abortion laws. Your question is kind of like asking how many children a Eunuch may have if he becomes King.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
you either chose to ignore my point or completely missed it. When you make the must argument to a Christian as to what they must do the teachings of God will always take precedent over the law of the land. Their must is always the moral teachings of God. The law of the land In this case is immorally in support of the act of murder. The law of the land is not always right as the many laws of a Nazi Germany or a Stalinist Russia would bear witness to. Just because those who are immoral have somehow convinced the supreme court that selective murder is ok does not make it so.
Luckily no one is making Christians have abortions....
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
you either chose to ignore my point or completely missed it. When you make the must argument to a Christian as to what they must do the teachings of God will always take precedent over the law of the land. Their must is always the moral teachings of God. The law of the land In this case is immorally in support of the act of murder. The law of the land is not always right as the many laws of a Nazi Germany or a Stalinist Russia would bear witness to. Just because those who are immoral have somehow convinced the supreme court that selective murder is ok does not make it so.

Great. So because you're a Christian, you get to ignore the law. That is what you're saying, even if you couch it in moralism.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
https://www.yahoo.com/health/undercover-anti-abortion-video-showed-images-of-127289829487.html
Undercover Anti-Abortion Video Showed Images of Stillborn — Not Aborted — Fetus

This is exactly the point I was trying to make with OUT when he posted his pictures. It does make a difference if the image is of a stillborn fetus vs. and aborted one. As usual, he couldn't provide any proof of what we were seeing.

The Far Right agenda doesn't require facts, just "proof", even if it's false. I totally understand they feel it's morally wrong, which is fine. We still do not live in a Christian theocracy, so they aren't going to get their way.
 
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