If Israel was committing genocide it would have leveled Gaza long before now. The West Bank too.
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america and canada commited genocide too against the natives
According to the NSC Iran and Russian military ties to one another continues to grow rapidly. Where do you think Russia's drones comes from? Iran has drones...Russia has nukes.
Yes, the US has the capability to project power anywhere in the world. Projecting it is one thing....sustaining it is another matter.
We couldn't sustain it in Vietnam....We couldn't sustain it in Afghanistan....We couldn't sustain it in Iraq.
In all 3 cases the issue was money. The drain on the US treasury was unsustainable.
You cant be socialist and liberal. liberals support capitalism
You are talking about the media govt propaganda system which i dont listen to
You said that Russia was treaty bound to come to Iran's aid. Well?
You said Carter found out how difficult getting heavy weapons into Iran is. As if we've been frozen in time since the '70's. We not only got tanks and other heavy weaponry into Iraq but had no trouble sustaining it.
Thank you for agreeing with President Trump that there was no valid reason to stay in Afghanistan. Spending billions for what exactly? But we were there 20 years. At what point do you consider it unsustainable? 25 years? 30? If only Biden hadn't thrown Trump's plan out the window and got troops killed and deserted tens of thousands of allies as well as hundreds of Americans.
Liberalism is a social construct.
Socialism is an economic construct.
You can be both. Probably difficult to find a conservative socialist.
On January 20th 2015 Russia and Iran signed an intergovernmental " long term and multifaceted" military cooperation agreement pledging full military partnership in matters of mutual interest in the region.
Ours was an invasion of Iraq not Iran and to my knowledge Hussein had no mutual military aid agreements with any other nation.
If so they would have come to his defense. And don't forget we provided some level of support to Hussein during the Iran/ Iraq War and Iran hasn't forgotten it not to mention the shoot down of the Iranian airliner by the US Navy. And they haven't forgotten the US/UK engineered coup that overthrew Iran's democratically elected prime minister Mohammed Mosaddegh.
Any military operation by the US today is subject to the War Powers Act and requires the necessary appropriations to be approved by Congress. As a result a long term military combat operations are becoming a thing of the past.
As for Mr. Trump's Afghanistan withdrawal agreement the Taliban pledged to provide force protection during the US withdrawal. Trouble was the Taliban turned out to be not the protective force but instead it was the hostile force.
if you want to get rid of capitalism, how is that conservative?
They didn't sign a pact similar to NATO's. Russia is not under any obligation to come to Iran's aid.
You brought up Carter's difficulty putting heavy weaponry into IRAN. I pointed out in our war in Iraq we had no trouble getting tanks, etc there. We put an army there very quickly.
We've been under the War Powers Act since 1973. This isn't new.
And Trump had it worked out with the Taliban to leave peacefully. Biden threw that out and took the Afghan Army's air support away. Then left in the middle of the night, deserting a hundred thousand allies and thousands of Americans. Had to return because of the resultant political fallout. But let the Taliban take over Kabul, saying we only needed the airport. That resulted in the bombing and troops killed. And made it about impossible for as many as a thousand Americans from getting to the airport. You can spin it any way you want but our Afghanistan withdrawal was one of the biggest cluster
s in our history. By the way the Taliban didn't agree to provide force protection to Trump. What happened is Trump made it clear to their leadership that he would annihilate the Taliban if any Americans were harmed. Biden took away air support and made the withdrawal during the "fighting season." Trump had agreed to leave while the Taliban was busy tending to their fields in the Spring. Just one of many things that Biden threw out the window. Allowed the Taliban to take complete control of the country. Absolutely astonishingly stupid. That's your president!
And what evidence do you have to offer that the Taliban withdrawal was actually going to happen? Do you actually believe that the Taliban or any other Islamic militant group inside the country would abide by anything Trump tried to impose on them? He didn't scare them. Whether it was the British, the Russians, the Americans or the NATO forces in Afghanistan they all got kicked out whether is was by the Taliban, ISIS Al-Qaeda, The Northern Alliance or any one of the numerous Islamic extremists groups operating inside Afghanistan.They didn't sign a pact similar to NATO's. Russia is not under any obligation to come to Iran's aid.
You brought up Carter's difficulty putting heavy weaponry into IRAN. I pointed out in our war in Iraq we had no trouble getting tanks, etc there. We put an army there very quickly.
We've been under the War Powers Act since 1973. This isn't new.
And Trump had it worked out with the Taliban to leave peacefully. Biden threw that out and took the Afghan Army's air support away. Then left in the middle of the night, deserting a hundred thousand allies and thousands of Americans. Had to return because of the resultant political fallout. But let the Taliban take over Kabul, saying we only needed the airport. That resulted in the bombing and troops killed. And made it about impossible for as many as a thousand Americans from getting to the airport. You can spin it any way you want but our Afghanistan withdrawal was one of the biggest cluster
By the way the Taliban didn't agree to provide force protection to Trump. What happened is Trump made it clear to their leadership that he would annihilate the Taliban if any Americans were harmed. Biden took away air support and made the withdrawal during the "fighting season." Trump had agreed to leave while the Taliban was busy tending to their fields in the Spring. Just one of many things that Biden threw out the window. Allowed the Taliban to take complete control of the country. Absolutely astonishingly stupid. That's your president!
So show me where in the agreement where the Taliban was going to leave Afghanistan? It was the Taliban Trump was negotiating with . If not them then just who would be the recognized government or the closest thing to it in that country?
Who said the Taliban was going to leave Afghanistan? We were the ones leaving. But Biden took air support from the Afghan army and allowed the Taliban to overrun the entire country. That caused the Afghan president to flee with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump had an agreement to withdraw U.S. forces with the Taliban. After we were to leave it was up to the Afghan army to hold the country. We certainly gave them plenty of equipment and training over 20 years. But they proved, after Biden closed Bagram air base, that many of them were just there for the paycheck and had no stomach for fighting.
By the way the Northern Alliance was allied with us against the Taliban. And no doubt a lot of the close to $85 billion in weapons and equipment Biden left has ended up in the hands of extremists.
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