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[bbsam]

You're asking me to link you to the countless lesson plans to teach the racist 1619 project?

Why? You're not capable of using Google?
SMH, okay homie, here's a place for you to start, it's from the largest teacher union in this country:

The 1619 Project Resource page - NEA EdJustice

The comprehensive 1619 Project informs and challenges us to reframe U.S. history and better understand the hold of institutional racism on our communities. NEA recently worked with the New York Times to distribute copies of the 1619 Project to educators and activists around the country to help...

neaedjustice.org

Did you read that? Do you find the history of slavery to be somehow taboo? The description of the curriculum for K-5 and 6-12 seem fairly logical and straightforward. Why is that objectionable?

 

[vantexan]

There is no such thing as CRT in K-12 schools. You're more than welcome to post the actual curriculum you believe is CRT. I'll be waiting......

I'm guessing you believe it's just a college textbook? Why do you think parents are protesting at school board meetings? They see firsthand what their kids are bringing home.

 

[vantexan]

Did you read that? Do you find the history of slavery to be somehow taboo? The description of the curriculum for K-5 and 6-12 seem fairly logical and straightforward. Why is that objectionable?

Quite a few history professors have already stated much of the 1619 Project is a false narrative. That's just it, put it in print and it's accepted without challenge by many because it's what they want to believe. We take the Bible primarily on faith if we believe, but there is historical documentation that backs up known facts that tells a very different story than the creators of the 1619 Project would have you believe.

 

[bbsam]

I'm guessing you believe it's just a college textbook? Why do you think parents are protesting at school board meetings? They see firsthand what their kids are bringing home.

What are they objecting to? History?

 

[bbsam]

Quite a few history professors have already stated much of the 1619 Project is a false narrative. That's just it, put it in print and it's accepted without challenge by many because it's what they want to believe. We take the Bible primarily on faith if we believe, but there is historical documentation that backs up known facts that tells a very different story than the creators of the 1619 Project would have you believe.

Let’s start with what they call key concepts. Any of these ideas blatantly false or objectionable?

 

[vantexan]

What are they objecting to? History?

The CRT materials I'm referring to teach kids that whiteness, white culture, is at the core of everything wrong in the world. It's hate, pure and simple.

 

[bbsam]

Quite a few history professors have already stated much of the 1619 Project is a false narrative. That's just it, put it in print and it's accepted without challenge by many because it's what they want to believe. We take the Bible primarily on faith if we believe, but there is historical documentation that backs up known facts that tells a very different story than the creators of the 1619 Project would have you believe.

Nothing wrong with challenging what the 1619 project puts out. What I’m hearing is that people don’t like that history doesn’t end and shapes the world we live in today. Not really a debatable idea. Now if people would like to put forth an alternate idea of why the 1619 project is wrong and where it’s extrapolations into today’s society don’t measure up, I think that’s an important conversation to have.

 

[vantexan]

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Let’s start with what they call key concepts. Any of these ideas blatantly false or objectionable?

No, just the facts that they've lied about and distorted while creating those key concepts.

 

[vantexan]

Nothing wrong with challenging what the 1619 project puts out. What I’m hearing is that people don’t like that history doesn’t end and shapes the world we live in today. Not really a debatable idea. Now if people would like to put forth an alternate idea of why the 1619 project is wrong and where it’s extrapolations into today’s society don’t measure up, I think that’s an important conversation to have.

CRT is putting out that there's something fundamentally wrong with being white. That whiteness is at the root of all our problems. It's promoting racial hatred and division.

 

[bbsam]

The CRT materials I'm referring to teach kids that whiteness, white culture, is at the core of everything wrong in the world. It's hate, pure and simple.

That’s what I’m trying to find. If you’re saying that white people who owned slaves and profited from that practice aren’t portrayed in the kindest manner, well so what? Why put lipstick on that pig?

 

[bbsam]

CRT is putting out that there's something fundamentally wrong with being white. That whiteness is at the root of all our problems. It's promoting racial hatred and division.

Again. I don’t see that in the curriculum that DIDO put up. What exactly suggests or states that being white is fundamentally wrong or evil?

 

[vantexan]

That’s what I’m trying to find. If you’re saying that white people who owned slaves and profited from that practice aren’t portrayed in the kindest manner, well so what? Why put lipstick on that pig?

You're not getting it. It's acknowledged by most today that slavery was an evil institution. What the CRT crowd is pushing is that it happened because there's something fundamentally wrong with being white that causes the white race to do these evil things. Of course history taught in schools shouldn't gloss over the evils of slavery, the evils of the Jim Crow era.

 

[bbsam]

No, just the facts that they've lied about and distorted while creating those key concepts.

Which facts are they lying about? Is it the same kind of lie that has Americans displaying Nazi Germany in a terrible light while neglecting to illuminate their industrial and scientific achievements?

 

[yadig]

If you’re a oppressed black man/woman you can always go back to the mother land. They will greet you with open arms and…

 

[vantexan]

Again. I don’t see that in the curriculum that DIDO put up. What exactly suggests or states that being white is fundamentally wrong or evil?

I saw it the other day. Was shown on CNN. It's being protested by black and white parents who've seen the textbooks brought home by their kids that say unequivocally that whiteness, white culture are intrinsically bad. There's also the matter of elements of "white culture" that are at the core of white supremacy like the nuclear family. That's being taught on some university campuses. I believe Old Man Jingles put up a chart awhile back of the various things that are considered to be the attributes of whiteness. What we have going on is radicals are trying to completely remake society and are trying to stamp out vestiges of the overall culture.

 

[bbsam]

You're not getting it. It's acknowledged by most today that slavery was an evil institution. What the CRT crowd is pushing is that it happened because there's something fundamentally wrong with being white that causes the white race to do these evil things. Of course history taught in schools shouldn't gloss over the evils of slavery, the evils of the Jim Crow era.

You’re right. I’m not getting it. I’m looking for the parts of CRT that suggest being white is fundamentally wrong. What statements do they make to promote that idea? What parts of history do they leave out or obscure in order to make white people seem evil?

it may be acknowledged that slavery was an evil institution, but it can also be acknowledged that a great number of Americans profited from and went to war to maintain slavery. Those are historical facts. They may not be pretty or necessarily complimentary parts of American heritage, but they are very real.

 

[vantexan]

Which facts are they lying about? Is it the same kind of lie that has Americans displaying Nazi Germany in a terrible light while neglecting to illuminate their industrial and scientific achievements?

I googled "what the 1619 project gets wrong" and at the top is an article on Politico written by a history professor at Northwestern. He fact checked the 1619 project and just a quick glance at what he wrote points outs firstly that the 1619 project states that the colonists went to war in the Revolution to protect slavery. He has other prominent historians agreeing with him. Don't get lost in the weeds, that was just the first of historic inaccuracies he points out. The thing is the the authors of the 1619 Project want to paint a narrative that indoctrinates kids and get them to believe we must totally remake society. And I imagine in the current climate guys like this professor who point out inaccuracies will be slammed, if not already, as racist.

 

[bbsam]

I saw it the other day. Was shown on CNN. It's being protested by black and white parents who've seen the textbooks brought home by their kids that say unequivocally that whiteness, white culture are intrinsically bad. There's also the matter of elements of "white culture" that are at the core of white supremacy like the nuclear family. That's being taught on some university campuses. I believe Old Man Jingles put up a chart awhile back of the various things that are considered to be the attributes of whiteness. What we have going on is radicals are trying to completely remake society and are trying to stamp out vestiges of the overall culture.

You saw it on CNN the other day and people who saw the textbooks…

Lol. I feel like I’m trying to coerce the meaning of pornography out of someone.

In 1964, Justice Potter Stewart tried to explain "hard-core" pornography, or what is obscene, by saying, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced... ut I know it when I see it ..."

 

[vantexan]

You’re right. I’m not getting it. I’m looking for the parts of CRT that suggest being white is fundamentally wrong. What statements do they make to promote that idea? What parts of history do they leave out or obscure in order to make white people seem evil?

it may be acknowledged that slavery was an evil institution, but it can also be acknowledged that a great number of Americans profited from and went to war to maintain slavery. Those are historical facts. They may not be pretty or necessarily complimentary parts of American heritage, but they are very real.

And those facts are well documented. Do you have the textbooks being produced and distributed in front of you? I don't, but again, one was held up on CNN and a passage was read, and said to be one of many examples in the book, that criticized whiteness and white culture as the source of our problems. This is the material that both black and white parents are protesting as blatantly racist and they object to their kids being required to study it. This isn't I heard from a friend of a friend stuff, this is going on in their schools with the blessing of liberal dominated school boards.

 

[vantexan]

You saw it on CNN the other day and people who saw the textbooks…

Lol. I feel like I’m trying to coerce the meaning of pornography out of someone.

In 1964, Justice Potter Stewart tried to explain "hard-core" pornography, or what is obscene, by saying, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced... ut I know it when I see it ..."

So basically she reads a passage that they clearly showed the text as she was reading, on a liberal news outlet no less, and you scoff. Your mind is poisoned with hatred.