President Trump

[Box Ox]

and you have to prove it was campaign money. if it was trumps money he can do what he wants.

There had to have been an abundance of proof for “Individual 1” to have even been mentioned as a co-conspirator in Cohen’s charging documents.

 

[Jkloc420]

A felony conviction of Michael Cohen for it and unindicted co-conspirator status for Trump says he can’t.

cohen was part of some medallion fraud thing, whatever that is

 

[Jkloc420]

There had to have been an abundance of proof for “Individual 1” to have even been mentioned as a co-conspirator in Cohen’s charging documents.

nope, just somebody saying it

 

[Jkloc420]

There had to have been an abundance of proof for “Individual 1” to have even been mentioned as a co-conspirator in Cohen’s charging documents.

that's why he is called individual 1 because you cant name somebody

 

[Jkloc420]

We just need to build the wall to prevent campaign violations

 

[newfie]

Are the AMI executives who were also in the meeting with Trump and saying the same thing as Cohen also lying?

Cohen routinely recorded phone conversations with Trump. Wouldn’t be surprised if there were a recording of the meeting as well.

a candidate can spend his money any way he wants.

 

[newfie]

A felony conviction of Michael Cohen for it and unindicted co-conspirator status for Trump says he can’t.

its his money to spend any way he wants

 

[newfie]

There had to have been an abundance of proof for “Individual 1” to have even been mentioned as a co-conspirator in Cohen’s charging documents.

sure because thats how we convict people named trump now.

did you see comey admit he set up flynn. bragged about it. nope no witch hunt here.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Ooooo, little Donnie is in trouble.
His fan club isn't happy.

 

[newfie]

A felony conviction of Michael Cohen for it and unindicted co-conspirator status for Trump says he can’t.

regardless of what Cohen plead guilty to in this politically charged world we live in an individual can always spend his money any way he chooses.

 

[vantexan]

sure because thats how we convict people named trump now.

did you see comey admit he set up flynn. bragged about it. nope no witch hunt here.

Interesting that a judge now wants to see the documentation on how Flynn was interrogated. Comey may have screwed himself and Mueller shooting off his mouth like that.

 

[Jkloc420]

regardless of what Cohen plead guilty to in this politically charged world we live in an individual can always spend his money any way he chooses.

Cohen was pleading to anything because he gots other shady stuff to deal with. In reality trump saved him a lot of jail time .

 

[vantexan]

No I didn't ... you may have taken it that way.
The last twenty years or so, conservative operatives have been trying to separate Social Security and Medicare from Welfare, Medicare and other Social Government programs targeting the indigent and extremely poor.
Social Security and Medicare are totally controlled by the US Government from the extorted collection to the payout. That is a Social Government program by it's very nature.
Social Security was actually started by the German government back in the late 1800's as a proactive measure to stave off the German Socialist Party's popularity. FDR liked the concept plus the US had an influential Communist Party and Socialist Party.
So, Social Security was effected in Germany and in the USA as a narrow Socialist program to quiet the masses.

When did the U.S. have an influential Communist Party? What elections did they win? The Wobblies were aligned with communists but generally by FDR's time most sympathetic to communism were closeted. Have you forgotten McCarthyism? Social Security was started to alleviate senior poverty. Back then once seniors retired if they had no savings they had to depend on family generosity mostly. Many suffered. Social Security INSURED against that. FDR might have gotten the idea from elsewhere FAIK but it was created for a very good reason.

Having worked for a major corporation, who made promises on a pension and then screwed us over in pursuit of bigger profits, I see the value of a guaranteed income. Capitalism at it's heart is exploitive. It's the best way to feed, clothe, and house the most people but those who benefit most from it do so at the expense of others. Certainly one can do well for oneself with education. You are providing value that an employer is willing to pay more for to increase his profits. But look at the Census stats. As you go up the income pyramid there are less and less people making better money. Most people are in the lower half. They struggle to get by while those in the top half benefit greatly from their labor. Fine, I don't think anyone is owed a great living. But if an employer is going to hold down pay, reduce benefits so that he and his family can enjoy a better life then at the very least he can contribute towards the retirement of his employees who make it possible for him to have that great life. Employers may start a business, risk their capital, work hard to make it successful, but if they need employees to make it work then the employees' labor has value. Show me the people who say Social Security is going bankrupt and I'll show you employers who don't want to match the employee contribution. They want that money for themselves. Social Security may be reduced in the early 2030's if nothing is done to shore it up. But it won't go bankrupt. Employees will still have their taxes taken out, and employers will match that. May only pay 78% of promised benefit, but that means a lot to seniors who'd go hungry otherwise.

 

[BrownFlush]

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Having worked for a major corporation, who made promises on a pension and then screwed us over in pursuit of bigger profits, I see the value of a guaranteed income.

Guess you didn't learn your lesson.
Social security is not guaranteed.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Capitalism at it's heart is exploitive. Most people are in the lower half. They struggle to get by while those in the top half benefit greatly from their labor.

@rickyb your work has paid off.




Lulz

 

[bacha29]

Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are the same thing. A double crossing, back stabbing , womanizing business and political snake. But, Bill Clinton was an Oxford educated Rhodes Scholar who knew both the rule of law and the theory behind it as Ken Starr and the other's learned allowing him to stay one step ahead of his enemies.
When the dust settled he was still standing where he always was yet it was an obvious and foregone conclusion that payback was coming. it was only a question of when, where and the people involved yet the Trumpeters and consercuks seem shocked and bewildered. Did they actually believe that this was something that could never happen to a politician they worshiped like some kind of God?

Politics today is not about principle, policy, values and ideals . it's about getting something on somebody that could lead to their political destruction and by destroying them politically you've hit him where it actually matters in the end.....In their wallets. Payback is indeed a bitch but if you want in the game you simply have to eat it and smile...... and watch your back.

 

[Jkloc420]

Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are the same thing. A double crossing, back stabbing , womanizing business and political snake. But, Bill Clinton was an Oxford educated Rhodes Scholar who knew both the rule of law and the theory behind it as Ken Starr and the other's learned allowing him to stay one step ahead of his enemies.
When the dust settled he was still standing where he always was yet it was an obvious and foregone conclusion that payback was coming. it was only a question of when, where and the people involved yet the Trumpeters and consercuks seem shocked and bewildered. Did they actually believe that this was something that could never happen to a politician they worshiped like some kind of God?

Politics today is not about principle, policy, values and ideals . it's about getting something on somebody that could lead to their political destruction and by destroying them politically you've hit him where it actually matters in the end.....In their wallets. Payback is indeed a bitch but if you want in the game you simply have to eat it and smile...... and watch your back.

this is two long

 

[Box Ox]

Politics today is not about principle, policy, values and ideals . it's about getting something on somebody that could lead to their political destruction and by destroying them politically you've hit him where it actually matters in the end.....In their wallets.

gosh darn. Can't wait until the Millenial and Gen Z folks take over in Congress and start trying to run each other out of DC over Twitter posts they made 10 years ago. Hopefully there will be some veterans in the mix who will dry their tears and be able to set them straight.

 

[rickyb]

When did the U.S. have an influential Communist Party? What elections did they win? The Wobblies were aligned with communists but generally by FDR's time most sympathetic to communism were closeted. Have you forgotten McCarthyism? Social Security was started to alleviate senior poverty. Back then once seniors retired if they had no savings they had to depend on family generosity mostly. Many suffered. Social Security INSURED against that. FDR might have gotten the idea from elsewhere FAIK but it was created for a very good reason.

Having worked for a major corporation, who made promises on a pension and then screwed us over in pursuit of bigger profits, I see the value of a guaranteed income. Capitalism at it's heart is exploitive. It's the best way to feed, clothe, and house the most people but those who benefit most from it do so at the expense of others. Certainly one can do well for oneself with education. You are providing value that an employer is willing to pay more for to increase his profits. But look at the Census stats. As you go up the income pyramid there are less and less people making better money. Most people are in the lower half. They struggle to get by while those in the top half benefit greatly from their labor. Fine, I don't think anyone is owed a great living. But if an employer is going to hold down pay, reduce benefits so that he and his family can enjoy a better life then at the very least he can contribute towards the retirement of his employees who make it possible for him to have that great life. Employers may start a business, risk their capital, work hard to make it successful, but if they need employees to make it work then the employees' labor has value. Show me the people who say Social Security is going bankrupt and I'll show you employers who don't want to match the employee contribution. They want that money for themselves. Social Security may be reduced in the early 2030's if nothing is done to shore it up. But it won't go bankrupt. Employees will still have their taxes taken out, and employers will match that. May only pay 78% of promised benefit, but that means a lot to seniors who'd go hungry otherwise.

i really parts of this post, but the inequality is much worse than 50% of society profiting off the lower 50%.

social security last i checked has a cap on the tax. if you lift the cap on it, then its good until 2070. social security pays too little anyways, so they need to increase that too.