You are trying to say it's not legitimate. If that was so the election would have already been nullified. Bet the next Dem nominee doesn't blow off the upper Midwest, or play up to the far Left by saying they're going to shut down an entire industry. Saying that about coal lost Clinton West Virginia, a reliably Democrat state, as well as votes in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
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Way back when. Now has his own private jumbo jet. Ought to tell you something about his character. Didn't give up.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Biggest loser in the country.
It will be fine
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Last time West Virginia voted D for President was 1996.
Ask Joe Manchin. Conservative democrats. Clinton lost their vote ripping coal. Which is why West Virginia turned red, environmentalists slamming coal.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
"The Art of The Con", the Biggest Loser Ever.
By Donald J. Trump
P.S. Book was ghostwritten. Double loser
It's easy to see where this is headed. That billion dollars he lost was for the most part the majority if not all bank money. What bank especially a US bank is going to lend a guy who lost a billion in borrowed principal any more money? This will likely shift the spotlight to his sources for more borrowed money. Deutsche Bank long suspected of being in reality little more than an international money launderer could find itself in a tough spot. Either comply with Trump's order not to turn over Trump banking history with the firm to federal investigators or lose it's US bank license and be forced to leave. Not to mention the laxness of accounting principles and the IRS lack of the resources needed to curb the type of accounting practices that can allow Trump and scores like him to get away with these type of practices.
" Follow the money".......Mark Felt.
WV's coal problem was that with the easy stripping and deep mining gone it's ability to compete with lower cost energy sources was going away with it. The real injustice that was done to WV and it's not the Clinton"s ( btw I don't live in WV) was the billions in raw material wealth hauled out of that state and nothing put back. Can you say Don Blankenship and Upper Big Branch? The Clinton's were condemned for their efforts to get WV's to try to move away from coal and into a more diversified economy because the days of King Coal were coming to an end......And many of those in the audience knew it but were simply too stubborn to accept that reality preferring instead to seek comfort living in the memories of the past.
oldngray
nowhere special
WV's coal problems were more they have narrow seams of high sulfur coal that couldn't compete with low sulfur coal from western states. Nothing to do with end of coal.
Rutherford B Hays
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Makes you wonder where that influx of money came from.
Clinton got over one hundred forty million contributed by Russians to her foundation and no one seems to care. Trump turned around his fortunes and was involved in highly lucrative endeavors like tv shows. And most likely his returns would show he used every trick available to avoid taxes.
The day will come when our oil and gas aren't sufficient enough to power the country. Not any time soon, but it will come. At that point if it hadn't happened already the choice will be coal or nuclear. Or maybe some new source will be developed. But coal will happen when all else fails.
oldngray
nowhere special
Rutherford B Hays
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What does Clinton have to do with this?
Trump could crap in his pants, and you all would rave about what a bold move it was. How he is sticking to the dimwit libatards by pooping his pants.
The number of US power plants fueled by coal has been in decline for years. As is the case with nuclear plants the coal plants simply can't keep up with the rest of the industry. In fact utilities in the Northeast and Mid Atlantic region are going to state legislatures demanding rate payer subsidy packages in order to keep the coal and nuke plants going despite grid operators repeatedly saying that they have plenty of reserve capacity and are not needed.
She has everything to do with it. She committed actual crimes and Dems could care less. But they're determined to turn up every stone in hopes of finding something, anything, on Trump. Hypocrites.
And yet the day will come in the future when those will be our viable alternatives. There's not enough land covered with solar panels to meet our needs. Or windfarms. By the way you can turn coal into diesel fuel.
moreluck
golden ticket member
He took advantage of the tax laws as we did......property investors did that legally back then!! Any good business person tries to pay as little taxes as legally possible. Losses can be written off...…...even Vegas losses can be written off up to what was spent.
Not everthing ventured is successful...…..what have you done lately? 1985-1994 was a long time ago!!!
Rutherford B Hays
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The story was about how he is a horrible businessman who lost more money than ANY American during that time frame. Nothing to do with Clinton, or Obama just Trump.
But just for kicks. Who was in power in Congress when these "crimes" were committed? Who controlled the Justice department and both the Senate and House of representatives from 2016-2018?
Why no charges
