Prime Day 2018

[HEFFERNAN]

You could say we've been on a wildcat strike for 10 whole years

I am getting paid 15 right now and my socialist cabal is currently demanding $18 in 2018.
Some PT are rightfully angry that the starting wage, after 20 years of trash, remains incredibly low.

McDonalds pays more for less PT physical labor and even less future opportunities.
UPS pays less for more PT physical labor but even more future opportunities.

 

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Go home you’re drunk

 

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Go home you’re drunk

 

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The eye of the JEW!!!!!!

 

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The eye of the JEW!!!!!!

Drivers when Ups takes their ot away

 

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Drivers when Ups takes their ot away


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No one can afford the ZJ.

 

[Bubblehead]

Section 3 - Illegal Strikes
It is further mutually agreed that the Local Union will, within two
(2) weeks of the date of the signing of this Agreement, serve upon
the Employer a written notice which notice will list the Union’s
authorized representatives who will deal with the Employer, make
commitments for the Union generally and in particular have the sole
authority to act for the Union in calling or instituting strikes or any
stoppages of work in a case where a strike or stoppage is authorized
under this Agreement and the Union shall not be liable for any
activities unless so authorized.
It is agreed that in all cases of unauthorized strike, slowdown, walk-
out, or any unauthorized cessation of work in violation of this
Agreement, the Union shall not be liable for damages resulting from
any unauthorized action of its members. While the Union shall
promptly undertake every reasonable means to induce said employees
to return to their jobs during such periods of unauthorized stoppage of
work mentioned above, it is specifically understood and agreed that
the Employer shall have the sole and complete right of discipline,
including the sole and complete right to discharge any employee par-
ticipating in any unauthorized strike, slowdown, walkout or any other
cessation of work and such employee shall not be entitled to have any
recourse to any other provisions of this Agreement.

Section 3 of what Article, in what agreement?

 

[Jones]

Section 3 of what Article, in what agreement?

That's the Atlantic Area, but local 804 has the exact same language. Haven't read through every single supplement but I'm sure those aren't the only ones.
Like I said, those 804 drivers were very lucky.

 

[Bubblehead]

I thought the city of New York had something to do with it? Didn't they say they would ban Ups from operating there if they didn't reinstate the drivers?

Hmm, didn't hear that but it's possible?

It all played a role in the final resolution of the 250 grieved discharges for an illegal work stoppage.

It took months, do you think they continued to work without the grievance procedure being enacted?

 

[Jones]

It all played a role in the final resolution of the 250 grieved discharges for an illegal work stoppage.

It took months, do you think they continued to work without the grievance procedure being enacted?

There was no grievance that was heard, the company immediately started training replacement drivers and putting the drivers who walked out on the street as soon as they had a replacement trained up. If Hall hadn't come down and made a huge concession to the company by agreeing to ban a BA from the property all those drivers would have been out of a job with no recourse.

 

[Bubblehead]

That's the Atlantic Area, but local 804 has the exact same language. Haven't read through every single supplement but I'm sure those aren't the only ones.
Like I said, those 804 drivers were very lucky.

Yeah sure, lucky...perhaps?

Like UPS was going to whack 250 drivers, just like that...

Seems to me like that language in these supplements is "lessor" than the Master language on the same subject, which is forbidden in Art 2 of the National Master:

ARTICLE 2

Any lesser conditions contained in any Supplement, Rider or
Addendum shall be superseded by the conditions contained in this
Master Agreement. However, except where specifically stated otherwise
in the Master Agreement, nothing in this Master Agreement
shall deprive any employee of any superior benefit contained in
their Supplement, Rider or Addendum.

This is the National Master language on the same subject:

ARTICLE 8

Section 2. Work Stoppages
All grievances and/or questions of interpretation arising under the
provisions of this National Master Agreement shall be submitted to
the grievance procedure for determination.
Accordingly, no work stoppage, slowdown, walkout or lockout over
such grievances and/or questions of interpretation shall be deemed
to be permitted or authorized by this Agreement except:
(a) failure to comply with a duly adopted majority decision of the
National Grievance Committee;
(b) failure to make health & welfare and pension contributions in
the manner required by the applicable Supplemental Agreements,
Riders and/or Addenda; and,
(c) nonpayment of established wage rates provided for in this
Agreement, Supplements, Riders and/or Addenda.
Except as provided in subsections (b) and (c) of this Section,
strikes, work stoppages, slowdowns, walkouts or lockouts over
disputes, which do not arise under provisions of this National
Master Agreement, shall be permitted or prohibited as provided in
the applicable Supplement, Rider and/or Addendum. The Local
Union shall give the Employer a seventy-two (72) hour prior written
notice of the Local Union’s authorization of strike action, which
notice shall specify the majority National Grievance Committee
decision or deadlocked National Grievance Committee decision
providing the basis for such authorization. The Local Union shall
comply with the provisions of the applicable Supplemental
Agreement, Rider and Addendum relating to strike action resulting
from delinquencies in the payment of health and welfare or pension
contributions.

Then I see the highlighted text above....and stand corrected.
Always something to learn, no matter how much you think you know.

 

[Bubblehead]

the company immediately started training replacement drivers and putting the drivers who walked out on the street as soon as they had a replacement trained up.

That's not how I remember it???

Once the agreement was inked, they all took turns serving two week suspensions.
I don't recall any of them on the street waiting for Hall (and O'Brein) to ride into town?

 

[Jones]

That's not how I remember it???

Once the agreement was inked, they all took turns serving two week suspensions.
I don't recall any of them on the street waiting for hall (and O'Brein) to ride into town?

Their plan was to walk them out 3-4 at a time as the replacements completed training, not sure how far along they were before hall rode into town but the company was moving as fast they could.

 

[Jackburton]

Their plan was to walk them out 3-4 at a time as the replacements completed training, not sure how far along they were before hall rode into town but the company was moving as fast they could.

How would have the 10 day window of discipline played a part in this?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Yup, wild cat strike is an automatic termination with no recourse. No grievance, no hearing, you're gone.

like what happened in New York! Oh...

 

[Jones]

How would have the 10 day window of discipline played a part in this?

There was no 10 day window in this case because the the contract language gave the company complete discretion in how to handle it:
it is specifically understood and agreed that
the Employer shall have the sole and complete right of discipline,
including the sole and complete right to discharge any employee participating
in any unauthorized strike, slowdown, walkout or any other
cessation of work and such employee shall not be entitled to have any
recourse to any other provisions of this Agreement.

 

[Jones]

like what happened in New York! Oh...

You really think the IBT is going to come to the rescue of a bunch of part timers conducting an illegal work stoppage to protest the contract that the IBT just negotiated?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

You really think the IBT is going to come to the rescue of a bunch of part timers conducting an illegal work stoppage to protest the contract that the IBT just negotiated?

It would be more than difficult to prove that it is an illegal work stoppage.

 

[Jones]

It would be more than difficult to prove that it is an illegal work stoppage.

Ok, let me know how it works out for you.