Progression changes

[DriveInDriveOut]

Union steward who heard it from the main union business agent for our Local. As of now it is staying at 4 years.

The progression can stay at 4 years, it just needs an overhaul. For 22.3's out here it is $15,$17,$20 and then top rate for the 4th year which is $30.XX. $11~ raise for the last year...WTF. Little baby steps then a huge jump. Needs to be more linear and start out higher.

So you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who isn't involved in the negotiations....

Knew I shouldn't have asked.

 

[cachmeifucan]

If the progression was shortened don't you think the union would have been bragging about it in their little press release?

True

 

[SweatPit]

So you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who isn't involved in the negotiations....

Knew I shouldn't have asked.

And what do you know about it? You will see, it will stay 4 years

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

And what do you know about it?

I know just as much as you know.

 

[Tony Q]

Anything but 4 years or more. Its so so long lol. Thanks @Tablespoon

@Tony Q

It won't increase.

 

[Oceanview]

90 days is what I’m hearing and if you’re in the old contract you’re stuck to the 4yr plan..

 

[Brisket]

90 days is what I’m hearing and if you’re in the old contract you’re stuck to the 4yr plan..

Um, now why would that even make it to the light of day, should be torpedoed immediately.

 

[542thruNthru]

90 days is what I’m hearing and if you’re in the old contract you’re stuck to the 4yr plan..

Lol 90 days. You're a riot!

 

[John Boy]

Should be no more than 2 years. Making a driver go through a 4 year progression for something he's been doing for the past couple of years already, just under the "TCD" label. This will leave a bad taste in your mouth when your ORS keeps you off the road as soon as you get close to 156 reports to keep you from going FT. Happened multiple times in my building. Billions in profit, they can afford to drop progression.

 

[Over 70 package]

100% voting no, UPS can blow me

 

[new2dagame]

I think anyone that does an average of 180 stops, and does as much as any driver that has been there for years deserve the same pay within 2 years....NOW as far as bid routes I agree with senority getting there routes

 

[22.34life]

The progression has to still be 4 years cause the 22.4 language says will go to top rate by 2022 unless their is 2 progression scales,which could very well be.

 

[Dumbo]

False, you gain any benefit of the new contract. If it were changed to 3 years, anyone in progression would top out at the 3 year mark. That said, I'm sure they would've bragged about that in the first few lines of the release of that were the case.

It wouldn't make any sense to keep the pay rates and progression the same for those under the old contract and not gain the benefits of the new contract. If that were the case, then somebody walking into a full time position would get the raise,which we are for sure getting, and start off making more then someone working for a year already. Drivers that have been there for just about a year would be stuck in a progression based on outdated economics and inflation.

IMO, any benefit in progression and pay would go to current drivers. So if I have been at 18.75 and hour since my start date, and the new contract has a new start rate of 20 an hour, then August 1st we would go to that rate immediately, then when I reached 1st year in October or whatever, then I'd get another raise to the new 1st year rate .

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

It wouldn't make any sense to keep the pay rates and progression the same for those under the old contract and not gain the benefits of the new contract. If that were the case, then somebody walking into a full time position would get the raise,which we are for sure getting, and start off making more then someone working for a year already. Drivers that have been there for just about a year would be stuck in a progression based on outdated economics and inflation.

IMO, any benefit in progression and pay would go to current drivers. So if I have been at 18.75 and hour since my start date, and the new contract has a new start rate of 20 an hour, then August 1st we would go to that rate immediately, then when I reached 1st year in October or whatever, then I'd get another raise to the new 1st year rate .

Correct

 

[SweatPit]

So you heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who isn't involved in the negotiations....

Knew I shouldn't have asked.

Told you it would stay at 4 years. My sources were indeed legit.

22.3's progression went up a measly $1 an hour before top scale. Weak.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Told you it would stay at 4 years. My sources were indeed legit.

 

[SweatPit]

Apparently you did since you responded. Thanks.

 

[Gaintain]

Out here in Chicago at least they trying to bring it back to a 2yr progression!

 

[Brownslave688]

How about you don't lose your seniority for vacation and option days when you do FSP? That would be nice

Why?


You keep the same amount but you shouldn't get to skip over a bunch of guys who were ft before.

 

[Brownslave688]

View attachment 201898 Out here in Chicago at least they trying to bring it back to a 2yr progression!

And look at that a $5 raise after year one.