Rail strike

[Thebrownblob]

I'll take their contract

24% increase in wages pretty good

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

24% increase in wages pretty good

I could max out my 401k if I get that kind of raise

 

[Sissy Brown Short Shorts]

I remember seeing videos earlier in the year on the news of rail cars full of packages ransacked out on the west coast. Majority of it was Amazon from what I could tell. A lot of goods are moved cross country on rail then loaded on 18 wheelers. Expect volume to dip and the shelves to be a little less full if there is no agreement by 9-29. These rail workers have been treated the same us as through covid. Overworked, harassed, and expected to be there no matter what! Give them what they want. People like them and us keep the country going!

The debris from the ransacked opened boxes was so bad it was derailing the train cars.

 

[Sissy Brown Short Shorts]

24% increase in wages pretty good

Ain’t it nice when public sector unions give billions in campaign contributions to democrats than come contract time they get to negotiate those amazing deals with the same people they paid to put in office? Biggest corrupt scam in history. It’s like if the casino gave you two kings right out of the gate each time you played a hand blackjack.

 

[newfie]

They already gave him a 60 day cooling off period

yea thats all fine and dandy but when a major transportation network or carrier disrupts the countries supply network the gov will step in and force either a return to work or a capitulation depending on the politics of the party in power.

when UPS was on strike in 97 the clinton administration strong armed UPS to get it settled. UPS was lining up our biggest shippers at the time to provide them with a 2 day service that would have been workable by our managment and non union employees. Our plan was to ride out the strike with the belief that many of our people would eventually cross. We were getting a lot of phone calls from our people looking for a safe way to cross the lines and go back to work. The clinton administration stepped in and threatened UPS with an excess of regulatory action if we didnt cave.
ups at the time delivered about 5 percent of the National GDP and the government was not going to let it continue.

 

[newfie]

The debris from the ransacked opened boxes was so bad it was derailing the train cars.

securing the goods cost extra.

 

[newfie]

24% increase in wages pretty good

i can imagine the railroads were reluctant to do so since no one knows how deep this recession will go.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Yeah I read that just a little bit ago did not realize, although if they got supposedly what they want I don’t know why they need a cooling off

To avoid a strike.

 

[Wally]

To be clear, President Biden prevented the rail workers from striking 2 months ago.

He appointed a board of arbitrators to come up with a solution. The unions have rejected that solution.

Come on man. You know that doesn't count.

 

[PT Car Washer]

i can imagine the railroads were reluctant to do so since no one knows how deep this recession will go.

No recession where I am at. Commercial and residential building boom and 3% unemployment.

 

[PT Car Washer]

yea thats all fine and dandy but when a major transportation network or carrier disrupts the countries supply network the gov will step in and force either a return to work or a capitulation depending on the politics of the party in power.

when UPS was on strike in 97 the clinton administration strong armed UPS to get it settled. UPS was lining up our biggest shippers at the time to provide them with a 2 day service that would have been workable by our managment and non union employees. Our plan was to ride out the strike with the belief that many of our people would eventually cross. We were getting a lot of phone calls from our people looking for a safe way to cross the lines and go back to work. The clinton administration stepped in and threatened UPS with an excess of regulatory action if we didnt cave.
ups at the time delivered about 5 percent of the National GDP and the government was not going to let it continue.

Thank you President Clinton and thank you President Biden.

 

[Thebrownblob]

To avoid a strike.

If they got what they want why would they need a cooling off period to avoid a strike?They will be voting yes. Obviously it’s going to take a few weeks for the vote to be counted but it should be guaranteed. Unless it’s not what they really wanted.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

yea thats all fine and dandy but when a major transportation network or carrier disrupts the countries supply network the gov will step in and force either a return to work or a capitulation depending on the politics of the party in power.

when UPS was on strike in 97 the clinton administration strong armed UPS to get it settled. UPS was lining up our biggest shippers at the time to provide them with a 2 day service that would have been workable by our managment and non union employees. Our plan was to ride out the strike with the belief that many of our people would eventually cross. We were getting a lot of phone calls from our people looking for a safe way to cross the lines and go back to work. The clinton administration stepped in and threatened UPS with an excess of regulatory action if we didnt cave.
ups at the time delivered about 5 percent of the National GDP and the government was not going to let it continue.

Long as they make a reasonable offer next year they won't have to worry about that issue

 

[newfie]

No recession where I am at. Commercial and residential building boom and 3% unemployment.

of course Bagdad Bob

 

[newfie]

Long as they make a reasonable offer next year they won't have to worry about that issue

its never that simple

 

[newfie]

Thank you President Clinton and thank you President Biden.

wipe your chin when you're done

 

[Brownslave688]

Yup, trying to squeeze maximize productivity out of their workforce rather than risk having employees they don't need to cover days off.
Sounds familiar.

But they all face that issue so they all had a reason to vote no. If part timers and feeder drivers get the money they want are they going to vote no for package drivers' time off?

If package drivers get the language they want would they vote no over part time pay?

Divide and conquer has worked well for UPS.

This sounds stupid familiar

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

its never that simple

Maybe I'll get an extended summer vacation next year

 

[Brownslave688]

i find that hard to believe. Most train movements are scheduled and i would think most conductor jobs are scheduled.
the issue being over week end work like everyone else is I'm sure the main issue.

You could just say you don’t have any idea about the work conditions.

 

[newfie]

Maybe I'll get an extended summer vacation next year

new union leadership that has to prove theirselves. i'd say there is a good chance.