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are you meditating?Hmmmm.......
are you meditating?Hmmmm.......
You are correct that SS is a payroll tax but we still pay income taxes on total wages up to $127,200. So you are paying income tax on top of the payroll tax.SS isn't an income tax. It's a payroll tax. And you'll only be taxed on SS if you're still working when you start collecting at 62. Wait until your full retirement age and you can work as much as you want with no tax on your SS benefit.
That is not quite true .SS isn't an income tax. It's a payroll tax. And you'll only be taxed on SS if you're still working when you start collecting at 62. Wait until your full retirement age and you can work as much as you want with no tax on your SS benefit.
Not talking about state income tax although that's an issue in some states. Was talking about if you take early SS at 62 you are only allowed to make so much if you work before they start taking some of your SS back. Make too much and they take it all. But at full retirement age you can make as much as you want without penalty.That is not quite true .
37 States That Don't Tax Social Security Benefits
Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Alaska, Nevada, Washington, Wyoming, Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, and Oregon .
Except when you started working your dollars were worth a lot more than now. And don't you invest in hopes of getting a decent return? Not exactly accurate to say you put X number in, you should only get that X number out.As it stands now , when I reach FRA ( full retirement age ) I will pass the amount that I paid into SS in 38 months . If I include the amount that my employers paid then I would have 77 months total .
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They blew $1.5 trillion. It could have been a very simple tax cut for everyone. That wasn't the goal. The goal was paying back their donors. They said as much.Not exactly a lie but we know how much you love Trump. Just because it is not simple doesn't mean the effort was not put forward.
Everyone had to have something they wanted in the tax plan making the simplicity difficult, thus the nature of government.
More importantly, reducing taxes and getting a plan through would be more important.
He said they were going to simplify the tax code. Remember do your taxes on a postcard? Spin it however you like, it was a lie.Not exactly a lie but we know how much you love Trump. Just because it is not simple doesn't mean the effort was not put forward.
Everyone had to have something they wanted in the tax plan making the simplicity difficult, thus the nature of government.
More importantly, reducing taxes and getting a plan through would be more important.
1.5 trillion will only require a fraction of 1% gdp growth to recover that amount. You always leave that part out.....if the gdp growth is about 3%, we're better than good.They blew $1.5 trillion. It could have been a very simple tax cut for everyone. That wasn't the goal. The goal was paying back their donors. They said as much.
And what happens if there's a downturn?1.5 trillion will only require a fraction of 1% gdp growth to recover that amount. You always leave that part out.....if the gdp growth is about 3%, we're better than good.
if there's a downturn the gdp will return to 2% and we're still ahead.And what happens if there's a downturn?
You're mistaken, they need .4% increase over average GDP growth to break even. If we're at 2% we're even more screwed, probably $3 trillion in extra deficit.if there's a downturn the gdp will return to 2% and we're still ahead.