We will jst be like germany,after WWII. Keep printing money,payoff debt and make the dollar worthless.
Pay off your debt now!
retirement crisis in america
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Pay off your debt now!
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Lol you're going to have to do a lot better than that to win this battle.talk is cheap. back it up with some articles or something.
america's unemployment stats are fudged; reagan and clinton changed the way its calculated to magically drop the unemployment number. like if ur say "your not looking for work (because you've given up trying to find a job)" ur not counted as umemployed. if your part time earning minimum wage your employed.
40.28% of all workers make less than $20,000 a year in America today. heres the link: http://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2011
and im pretty sure 50% of americans earn less than $15/hr. which puts them just above the poverty line and goes with what i said above. Believe that!
europe is more free because in most countries they dont have to do debt peonage to pay off student loans of which america is #1 in costs to go to college. why? debt is a way of social control + they are in the process of privatizing and corporatizing the education system in usa.
europeans also get 5-6 weeks or more guaranteed vacation a year. its not left to the "market" where in america workers typically get 2 weeks or 3 if they are lucky.
the healthcare system is a total joke in america: only country not to have healthcare as a right. medical bankruptcy is also the #1 reason for bankruptcy in america. i dont call that debt by "choice" haha.
europeans have maternity leave. america has none.
theres a long list. america is soed up because they destroyted their left wing in ww1 and 1950s, and they have the most violent labor struggles of developed countries.
Poverty rate is under 20%. It's called Google.
The left ruined student loans when they backed federal loans. Just look at the price of college since then. Speaks for itself.
Don't get me started on maternity leave and vacation. There's a reason Europeans pay upwards of 50% tax rates. The government pays everything.
they pay more than 50% in some countries if they are rich! u want to tax the rich lol.
theres no battle. i said unofficial poverty rate lol. officially it never got hirer than 10% or whatever BS number the government gave. u make it sound like it was an easy 7 years for americans...
40,000 americans die unnecessarily each year because of lack of healthcare. 3000 died in 9/11. america spends 1.5 trillion or half its yearly budget on military empire. and we know what happens to empires.
yea its called google: you should try using it and learn something about your country and stop saying all this patriotic garbage.
theres a long list about whats wrong with america in the first few pages of Chris Hedges Days of Destruction.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=30...ations the united states has the&friend=false
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
You act like everyone is entitled to everything.
That ain't the way it works. I don't know 1 person that is willing to work hard or has a discernible skill that doesn't live a good life.
And the rich should be taxed at the same rate as anyone else. That's called being fair if you really want to be fair.
ur trippin then! all kinds of people work hard and just arent paid nothing for it. working at mcdonalds or all kinds of minimum wage jobs is hard work; and if the workers controlled their jobs they would earn probably closer to 15-$20/hr instead of 10.
a flat tax for the rich is called being stupid. why should the small group of people who are ultra rich who are most able to pay for things be taxed at the same rate as an average joe who has little to nothing? a progressive income tax is the only smart thing to do, and thats why democrats and republicans have never touched it
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
$15 -$20 an hour for fast food would mean your fast food would cost so much the $34 an hour we make wouldn't be middle class.
The "ultra rich" don't pay anything in taxes anyway. They know how to get around it. Tax rates could be dropped big time if loop holes didn't exist. Why have write offs? If you make x amount you are taxed y amount. Period.
Not a flat tax how about a fair tax. Herman Cains plan was a decent start. Everyone pays the same income tax then have a national sales tax. The rich spend more so they would be taxed more.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
We are way off track anyway you started this thread blaming corporations for Americas retirement problem. Please explain why you think this is the case?
Why isn't it an individual's responsibility to spend less than they make?
The problem isn't the person with 3 kids working 2 jobs and scraping by. The problem is the people making 70k that spend every dime they make and never save. The problem is the mom with 7 kids by 5 different dads who lives solely on your and my dime.
Why isn't it an individual's responsibility to spend less than they make?
The problem isn't the person with 3 kids working 2 jobs and scraping by. The problem is the people making 70k that spend every dime they make and never save. The problem is the mom with 7 kids by 5 different dads who lives solely on your and my dime.
When you actually look at Greece with all the economic data for both countries side by side, you can't help but realize what a ridiculous argument you have deemed to be "'nuff said".
Let Obama keep printing up Trillions,increase the Welfare state,grow Goverment and give a hall pass to illegals.
greece will be in better shape than us.
Because America's economy right now is based upon deficit spending and creative financing, not only at the national but at the personal level as well. Take that away and the empire falls. Keep it afloat and companies can underpayment and continue to exploit labor.
Again, facts say you are wrong. Europe has gone the austerity route and is on the brink of another recession. Low oil prices are about the only thing saving western Europe as it's bringing Russia to its economic knees.
Feisty tonight?? Can only rob Peter to pay Paul,for so long. As far as the low oil prices go. In the long run,It way do more damagve,than good. Wall street will lose money(so will your 401k and pension plans) Many high paying energy jobs will be lost. Less tax revenue collected. More people collecting unemployment.
We are not too far,becoming the next Greece! As much as the rest of the world,would like to see us crash and burn. it would also become their own demise as well.
oldngray
nowhere special
Don't forget Spain which is another Greece. A few countries in Europe are doing OK (like Germany and Finland) but the more socialist ones are running out of other people's money to spend.
When fuel went from $3.50 to $2.50 per gallon, how much money do you think UPS, Fedex, and every other trucking company saved? Airlines? Individuals? While the loss of jobs is regrettable, the boon to the economy more than offsets it. If it helps, consider how much of a tax break UPS would have to get to save that kind of money.
The mods know everything. OP knows nothing except.....not to work for Fedex!
Germany is tied to those "socialist" countries. They go down, Germany falls.
Compared to the US, Germany is socialist.
For every positive thing, a negative comes with It. not only loss of good jobs. Lost tax revenue. No need for people to buy more fuel efficent new cars. No need to develope alternative energy. The low cost of oil,will not be worth American companies to drill. So we can fund the overseas terrorists. Guess you are right bbsam.
oldngray
nowhere special
Everything in Europe is more socialist than the US. Germany does OK with its own economy but yes, the rest of EU will drag it down.
Well I do not know EVERYTHING. Possibly more than the OP...and what makes the OP think we'd take him at X anyway?The mods know everything. OP knows nothing except.....not to work for Fedex!
Because my beer said so! Merry Christmas.Well I do not know EVERYTHING. Possibly more than the OP...and what makes the OP think we'd take him at X anyway?
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