RTW- Leaving the Union.

[coolslice]

Are you a part timer?

The benefits are the same for 22.4, it is clear you are nothing but a lying management troll and have never done an honest day's work in your life

Don't you have an imaginary lawyer you need to go play with?

I just proved that you all don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and your response is to criticize me? LOL!

 

[8000Shelf]

I just proved that you all don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and your response is to criticize me? LOL!

I'll bet you know your sups ass from your other sups ass

 

[coolslice]

I'll bet you know your sups ass from your other sups ass

At least I actually know the contract that was forced on us and I know I'll make about $1200 more dollars a year by not taking it up the ass from Hoffa and the rest of the crooks to fund their lavish lifestyle. I can see why some of you are so pro-union. You probably couldn't hold down a job raking leaves without someone there to change your diaper when you dick the dog.

 

[Trailer monkey]

You nailed me. I'm management. Do 22.4 guys at your place have 9.5 protection? Do they make the same wage as you?

This is a union board, I do not discuss union issues with anti-union managers

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

I can see why some of you are so pro-union. You probably couldn't hold down a job raking leaves without someone there to change your diaper when you dick the dog.

So the union *DOES* actually accomplish stuff.
Thanks for conceding.

 

[olroadbeech]

management troll

heart attack forth coming

 

[coolslice]

I'll bet anyone here a thousand bucks that I'm not management and have been a full-time driver for many years. Apparently you all are just dumbfounded by a person that can think for themselves and doesn't need daddy union to wipe my ass and clean up my messes.

 

[8000Shelf]

I just proved that you all don't know your ass from a hole

taking it up the ass, dick the dog.

wipe my ass

taking it up the ass

Someone's subconscious is trying to tell him something

 

[Trailer monkey]

I'll bet anyone here a thousand bucks that I'm not management and have been a full-time driver for many years. Apparently you all are just dumbfounded by a person that can think for themselves and doesn't need daddy union to wipe my ass and clean up my messes.

And you are as dumb as a sack of hammers if you think you are going to get 37+ an hour without a union contract, no matter how big a management suckass you are

 

[coolslice]

That's what I thought. No takers. I guess no one here is brave enough to back up their claims with some real cash? It's all just a bunch of gum flapping and BS. I'll tell you what, I'll even give half my winnings to the local president of your choice.

 

[coolslice]

And you are as dumb as a sack of hammers if you think you are going to get 37+ an hour without a union contract, no matter how big a management suckass you are

I could go to Toyota and build cars and make just as much as I do at UPS. The only reason I didn't take that job when I was 22 is because I don't want to work inside all day. I guess a sack of hammers isn't as dumb as you think it is. In hindsight, taking a job with UPS was not the best choice for me or my family, and certainly not the best option I had available when I was younger. Believe it or not, there's thousands of other jobs out there that aren't UPS or Taco Bell. We are far from the highest paid workers in the country, but we work harder than most everyone else day in and day out. If I were walking in the door at UPS right now as a new hire, I wouldn't stay very long. Seeing what the job has become, I discourage everyone that asks me about getting a job there. If my kids wind up working for UPS, I will consider it my biggest failure as a parent. I'm sure that after years of seeing their dad too sore and tired to do anything, and never being at any school or extracurricular activities during the week, they'll know better and look elsewhere, Even if they do make less money. Money isn't everything, and anyone that drives for UPS should know that better than anyone- or so I thought.

 

[Sporhwhore]

Some of what you say really does make sense ( PVD, surepost, 22.4 etc)... but I’ll tell ya what where I’m from I wouldn’t wanna be that guy that the union half ass represents because you decided to save $20 a week and opt out of your dues.... there is a lot of truth in your rants but like everyone has been telling you no union = no where near our compensation we currently receive! We do earn it I see what my 3 fed ex guys do compared to me but in the end (vacation pension insurance wages) I probably get paid 3 times as much

 

[coolslice]

Some of what you say really does make sense ( PVD, surepost, 22.4 etc)... but I’ll tell ya what where I’m from I wouldn’t wanna be that guy that the union half ass represents because you decided to save $20 a week and opt out of your dues.... there is a lot of truth in your rants but like everyone has been telling you no union = no where near our compensation we currently receive! We do earn it I see what my 3 fed ex guys do compared to me but in the end (vacation pension insurance wages) I probably get paid 3 times as much

We don't really have any super pro-union guys at my hub. We had some that were preloaders that worked with the previous administration, but after they lost the re-election (and got caught doing some pretty nefarious things) they left.

I am worried about people spitting on me and keying my car? Not at all. The stewards we have now know the realities of the union. Hell, A steward is the one that told me about his orders not to give grievances to mgmt. I guarantee you that after the first person leaves the union, many others will follow- especially guys that have been there for 25+ years that see what the union has become and are tired of all the juvenile BS and corruption that has plagued our local for many years.

 

[Trailer monkey]

I could go to Toyota and build cars and make just as much as I do at UPS. The only reason I didn't take that job when I was 22 is because I don't want to work inside all day. I guess a sack of hammers isn't as dumb as you think it is. In hindsight, taking a job with UPS was not the best choice for me or my family, and certainly not the best option I had available when I was younger. Believe it or not, there's thousands of other jobs out there that aren't UPS or Taco Bell. We are far from the highest paid workers in the country, but we work harder than most everyone else day in and day out. If I were walking in the door at UPS right now as a new hire, I wouldn't stay very long. Seeing what the job has become, I discourage everyone that asks me about getting a job there. If my kids wind up working for UPS, I will consider it my biggest failure as a parent. I'm sure that after years of seeing their dad too sore and tired to do anything, and never being at any school or extracurricular activities during the week, they'll know better and look elsewhere, Even if they do make less money. Money isn't everything, and anyone that drives for UPS should know that better than anyone- or so I thought.

All I can tell you is if you are that unhappy you need to quit. I don't know why you have stayed this long, if like you say there are so many better paying jobs that I'm sure are not as hard on your body and home life

 

[sandwich]

So, again. Put a value on them "negotiating" for me without listening to what we actually want? What's it worth over a career? I get docked every week for something they half ass do every 5 years. The rest goes to roving union parties and bloated salaries, hookers, and beer. What is fair? Let me guess, it's whatever the union tells you is fair. They need hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure we get a contract forced down our throats with no way to protest it. Who am I to question that? I see my check as money I've earned, you all see it as a gift from Hoffa.

You make 40 bucks an hour to frisbee cardboard at doors and you think the union has done NOTHING for you.


They need to add one more rule to rtw laws.

When you opt out of your negotiated pay and benefits, you should have to negotiate your own.

 

[Indecisi0n]

This seems to be a very controversial subject. @Indecisi0n please use your mod powers and make a poll.

Can't right now. I'm still working on getting back the search function .

 

[Rack em]

Can't right now. I'm still working on getting back the search function .

This site would fail to function without you. keep up the good work sir!

 

[rod]

Can't right now. I'm still working on getting back the search function .

you sure are doing a lousy job of it.

 

[B-Brown]

We don't really have any super pro-union guys at my hub. We had some that were preloaders that worked with the previous administration, but after they lost the re-election (and got caught doing some pretty nefarious things) they left.

I am worried about people spitting on me and keying my car? Not at all. The stewards we have now know the realities of the union. Hell, A steward is the one that told me about his orders not to give grievances to mgmt. I guarantee you that after the first person leaves the union, many others will follow- especially guys that have been there for 25+ years that see what the union has become and are tired of all the juvenile BS and corruption that has plagued our local for many years.

We can't even get a third of eligible members to vote especially when it is sent to their house and it is a matter of a minute or so to complete. It's always the loud mouths who are the worst union people. We had scabs running for steward. Supervisors who are business agents. We have people running for office who do videos talking about how the union "WE" went on strike in 1997 and won when they weren't even there but benefited from a full time job they have.

Maybe these people should be a little more understanding and ask nicely why you would leave a union that has sold you out over the last couple contracts. I guess they are so proud of this union.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

One time a driver from one of our extended centers tried to get out of the union at the local hall. The president at the time had several rather large NFL tackle sized individuals come out to the front desk and stand near him as he was asked to reconsider.