No, that's beauty....please don't mangle quotes, it hurts my eyes!! Actually, relevance is determined by the listener (or reader), not the one speaking. Non-competitive sports is not about getting something for nothing. It's a play on a utopian concept of bolstering kids' self esteem regardless of their skill level or ability. Which does very little to prepare them for the real world which doesn't coddle their feelings. Prime example, the 1-800-They're picking on me thread lol. Dave was correct, your post was pointless....