Seriously, Is there a place for Islam in America?

[Catatonic]

And I feel safe to conclude that this has more to do with it than anything.
In Israel, unlike the US, a privilege — but no right — to bear arms

Great ... that means no criminals use guns to commit crime in Israel then!

It seems appropriate to note that you shot yourself in the foot by quoting this article.
But as I read the article, it said

Israel, a country that often appears to be inundated with weapons, actually extends very few gun permits to civilians — only 2.5 percent of the population can legally carry a firearm.

“In 40-50 cases over the past 10 years, armed Israeli citizens have intervened during terror attacks,” said Dr. Shlomo Shpiro, a senior research fellow at Bar-Ilan University’s BESA Center and the author of a forthcoming paper on the armed Israeli civilian’s role in foiling terror attacks.

“In 70 percent of those cases, their intervention was crucial,” he said.

 

[Sportello]

Great ... that means no criminals use guns to commit crime in Israel then!

That was an uninformed comment.

There isn't much in the way of gun related crime in Israel, if you were wondering.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Great ... that means no criminals use guns to commit crime in Israel then!

They don't have the mass shootings we do. Ttku

 

[Catatonic]

That was an uninformed comment.

There isn't much in the way of gun related crime in Israel, if you were wondering.

And the reason why is 2.5% of the population carries and is trained to use a firearm.

 

[Catatonic]

They don't have the mass shootings we do. Ttku

As much as your post and the provided link did.
TNTBADA

 

[Catatonic]

Great ... that means no criminals use guns to commit crime in Israel then!

It seems appropriate to note that you shot yourself in the foot by quoting this article.
But as I read the article, it said

Israel, a country that often appears to be inundated with weapons, actually extends very few gun permits to civilians — only 2.5 percent of the population can legally carry a firearm.

“In 40-50 cases over the past 10 years, armed Israeli citizens have intervened during terror attacks,” said Dr. Shlomo Shpiro, a senior research fellow at Bar-Ilan University’s BESA Center and the author of a forthcoming paper on the armed Israeli civilian’s role in foiling terror attacks.

“In 70 percent of those cases, their intervention was crucial,” he said.

Another interesting difference between USA and Israel:

Shpiro, who examined cases from the 1930s and onward, rejects this notion. The two critical factors explaining Israeli civilians’ relatively effective responses, he argues, are training and an embedded, perhaps biblical and religious sense of responsibility for one another.

The training begins with the military, where combat soldiers are taught from day one to charge the enemy. The army’s psychological screening tests are also used to determine who may carry a weapon post-army, as a civilian.

Maybe you liberals wouldn't be so pusillanimous if you had served in the armed forces and wouldn't be so scared of civilians carrying guns.

 

[MAKAVELI]

As much as your post and the provided link did.
TNTBADA

Try reading the entire article.

 

[Catatonic]

Try reading the entire article.

I read it and quoted it.
You don't recognize what I posted?

 

[Catatonic]

They don't have the mass shootings we do. Ttku

I consider a mass shooting as a crime.

I can't wait to hear why you don't consider mass shootings to be a crime.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I read it and quoted it.
You don't recognize what I posted?

I didn't read your post after you edited it.
But your quote just proves my point.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I consider a mass shooting as a crime.

I can't wait to hear why you don't consider mass shootings to be a crime.

I never said anything about crime. Must be smoking some of that krippy kush.

 

[Catatonic]

I never said anything about crime.

That goes without saying ... you never post anything about the thread subject.

And I feel safe to conclude that this has more to do with it than anything.
In Israel, unlike the US, a privilege — but no right — to bear arms

What has this got to do with this thread?
Anything?

 

[Catatonic]

View attachment 180828

This is the best post of the day (so far).

 

[Catatonic]

Just on CBS News ...
Nick Cruz was an Islamic jihadist

This was actually on TV ... CBS News network.

The lady said, "If Nick Cruz was an Islamic terrorist, there would be all kind of talk about what we can do about preventing this in the future."

A lot of static after that observation.

She has a point, although a very limited point.

 

[newfie]

And I feel safe to conclude that this has more to do with it than anything.
In Israel, unlike the US, a privilege — but no right — to bear arms

the criminals can't get guns , the honest citizens can? seems like a good plan.

 

[MAKAVELI]

That goes without saying ... you never post anything about the thread subject.

What has this got to do with this thread?
Anything?

Probably at least half the posts in in the thread.

 

[vantexan]

Says the guy living in Uzbekistan.

I'm not in Uzbekistan.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I'm not in Uzbekistan.

Same difference.
Trump has a word for whatever 'stan you're in.

 

[Sportello]

Another interesting difference between USA and Israel:

Shpiro, who examined cases from the 1930s and onward, rejects this notion. The two critical factors explaining Israeli civilians’ relatively effective responses, he argues, are training and an embedded, perhaps biblical and religious sense of responsibility for one another.

The training begins with the military, where combat soldiers are taught from day one to charge the enemy. The army’s psychological screening tests are also used to determine who may carry a weapon post-army, as a civilian.

Maybe you liberals wouldn't be so pusillanimous if you had served in the armed forces and wouldn't be so scared of civilians carrying guns.

Thank you for your service.

Oh, wait...

 

[trickpony1]

Trump has a word for whatever 'stan you're in.

How are things in dido'stan?