Should Older Teamsters Vote Yes?

[Wally]

If this new Hybrid Driver position creates more Union members, might the older voter pull the switch for yes?

More employees equates to more pension contributions. So if one were focused on that, they may very well sell the younger drivers out in favor of their own long term interests.

 

[Future]

If this new Hybrid Driver position creates more Union members, might the older voter pull the switch for yes?

More employees equates to more pension contributions. So if one were focused on that, they may very well sell the younger drivers out in favor of their own long term interests.

They will screw up the additional pension money anyways ...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If this new Hybrid Driver position creates more Union members, might the older voter pull the switch for yes?

More employees equates to more pension contributions. So if one were focused on that, they may very well sell the younger drivers out in favor of their own long term interests.

Or it may put a target on us higher paid employees....

 

[Wally]

Or it may put a target on us higher paid employees....

If you are out of here soon you might be on cruise control.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If you are out of here soon you might be on cruise control.

Do you not work at the same company as I do???

 

[PASinterference]

I have a few years to go, and I guess possibly I could be bought. But not with this garbage contract. Besides that, I dont see them running more routes. Just running cheaper drivers to cut into top rate drivers. We all know how ups can and will screw anyone that is available .

 

[Wally]

I have a few years to go, and I guess possibly I could be bought. But not with this garbage contract. Besides that, I dont see them running more routes. Just running cheaper drivers to cut into top rate drivers. We all know how ups can and will screw anyone that is available .

More money in the pension?

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

No

 

[Wally]

Do you not work at the same company as I do???

Around here, they tend to not bother older guys and gals.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Around here, they tend to not bother older guys and gals.

Depends on the flavor of the day

 

[Wally]

Depends on the flavor of the day

It's kind of like the last day of school. The kids run wild.

 

[PASinterference]

More money in the pension?

I'm in central states. Might as well be monopoly money being paid in.

 

[JustDeliverIt]

Your also assuming they can find people to hire and do this newly created job.

 

[brownmonster]

If this new Hybrid Driver position creates more Union members, might the older voter pull the switch for yes?

More employees equates to more pension contributions. So if one were focused on that, they may very well sell the younger drivers out in favor of their own long term interests.

Some of the older drivers have quite a bit of UPS stock as well so growth and dividends could play into the vote as well.

 

[Wally]

Your also assuming they can find people to hire and do this newly created job.

Depends on what it is paying. Add to that medical, etc. Might not be as hard as you think.

 

[just chillin']

Or it may put a target on us higher paid employees....

If (and this is a HUGE if) they red circle all existing higher paid driving jobs and limit the 22.4s to a percentage of drivers per center, I don’t see current top scale drivers as targets to eliminate. Again a big IF

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If (and this is a HUGE if) they red circle all existing higher paid driving jobs and limit the 22.4s to a percentage of drivers per center, I don’t see current top scale drivers as targets to eliminate. Again a big IF

If they don't red circle the current drivers, no way will it have a shot at passing. Who is going to vote them a $6 pay cut?

 

[just chillin']

Yeah, red circle language is the biggest factor. While it does institute a 2 tier driving wage like it did to full time preload years ago, it does not eliminate the top scale job in the future.

 

[Poop Head]

Yeah, red circle language is the biggest factor. While it does institute a 2 tier driving wage like it did to full time preload years ago, it does not eliminate the top scale job in the future.

No full time preloaders where I'm at......

 

[Wally]

Bottom line is, how many jobs will this create, if any? What number is needed to affect pension funds?

If this is just moving work for little jobs, why bother?