Snow Flake List

[What The Hawk?]

I thought this was going to be about political snowflakes. Lol wow..

Grow up, Cos.

 

[Poop Head]

I can't imagine anyone stupid enough to buy their own chains----but then again its the new UPS.

It was up in the Rockies, that's why I thought ups may have provided them..

 

[watdaflock?]

It just effects our job in that it is miserable to work in.

I don't care drivers have to deal with slippery conditions a handful of days every year, they are very well compensated. Significant snow effects my work positively on preload; I enjoy being paid to stand around while waiting for trailers.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I don't care drivers have to deal with slippery conditions a handful of days every year, they are very well compensated. Significant snow effects my work positively on preload; I enjoy being paid to stand around while waiting for trailers.

You may want to review the proper use of the words effect and affect.

 

[Poop Head]

I don't care drivers have to deal with slippery conditions a handful of days every year, they are very well compensated. Significant snow effects my work positively on preload; I enjoy being paid to stand around while waiting for trailers.

I hope you get an ear infection

 

[soberups]

@soberups

In Oregon, all package cars have a set of chains.
If conditions are bad enough, chains are required and you can actually get a ticket for driving without them.
I have 2 full sets of chains in my package car, they are the heavy-duty PEWAG brand that are made in Austria. They are about $300 a set.

 

[JL 0513]

I don't care drivers have to deal with slippery conditions a handful of days every year, they are very well compensated. Significant snow effects my work positively on preload; I enjoy being paid to stand around while waiting for trailers.

Preloader, that explains your attitude about it. Drivers are paid the same on a warm sunny day. I'll take the sunny day. High pay doesn't take away the miserable aspects of driving 100 stop and go miles and treading through unshoveled snow or walking on ice all day. Then the idea that if we get into an accident, we'll never hear the end of it.

 

[Poop Head]

In Oregon, all package cars have a set of chains.
If conditions are bad enough, chains are required and you can actually get a ticket for driving without them.
I have 2 full sets of chains in my package car, they are the heavy-duty PEWAG brand that are made in Austria. They are about $300 a set.

That's awesome!! It's funny, we wanna move to Oregon someday. Just one more reason on the pro list lol

 

[Mugarolla]

Is this the only supplement reference? Only reason I am asking is because where I work if we are sent out and called back in we still get our daily guarantee. If they call us and tell us to stay home we have to use personal time if we want to get paid.

No. Section 7 refers to the 8 hour guarantee if put to work, but UPS uses Section 1, Acts of God, to override "all" guarantees, including the 8 hour guarantee if put to work.

Do you remember the thread about the Central and working Holidays?

A regular seniority employee shall not be required to work on the
following eight (8) named holidays.........

Except as otherwise provided in this Agreement, regular seniority
employees required to work on any of the above named holidays......

I don't care drivers have to deal with slippery conditions a handful of days every year

That means a driver only has to call in a handful of days a year. No big deal.

they are very well compensated

We are not compensated any more for driving during a blizzard for those handful of days a year.

I enjoy being paid to stand around while waiting for trailers

If you enjoy it, then why are you complaining about it.

Then the idea that if we get into an accident, we'll never hear the end of it.

It sometimes goes beyond just not hearing the end of it.

It sometimes goes to weeks of suspension or even discharge, or could go that far, so why take the risk?

Like I said, I do every blizzard, but maybe I'm stupid.

There have been many a days that I came in, and 2 hours later, I am asking myself what the hell am I doing out here?

 

[Johney]

Do any centers supply real chains btw? Mine only has cheater chains (I make sure to have at least 4 with me in winter). I've seen a PC in the mountains a while back with real chains, while on vacation, but wasn't able to ask the driver if the center supplied them or he bought them himself

@[COLOR=#ff0000]soberups[/COLOR]

In Oregon, all package cars have a set of chains.
If conditions are bad enough, chains are required and you can actually get a ticket for driving without them.
I have 2 full sets of chains in my package car, they are the heavy-duty PEWAG brand that are made in Austria. They are about $300 a set.

I think you missed the question.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I think you missed the question.

Are you saying the company wouldn't spend $300 for a set of chains?

 

[soberups]

I think you missed the question.

He asked if UPS supplied the chains and I answered that all package cars in my state have a set.

 

[Over 70]

They all have a set of chains here too. We get 120-140" a year though. This year is a big exception though snow wise which sucks as a reg-temp near the bottom. Bad weather = more workdays.

 

[rod]

They used to give us a set of chains years ago then all of a sudden they stopped it. After awhile nobody used them anymore and the ones they had left were thrown away--a lot of them had never been used. I still have 3 or 4 good sets of chains that I salvaged from the UPS dumpster. Over the years I've fabricated chains for my snow blower, my neighbors garden tractor, a Honda Big Red 3-wheeler and now my Honda Rancher. When I was heavy into ice fishing I made up a set for my Silverado to use when the snow on the lakes was to deep for just 4 wheel drive.

 

[Rack em]

If Ups didn't supply us chains we would hardly get anything delivered in the winter. We use chains so much at our center that drivers have made their own 4x4 boards cut to make putting chains on that much easier.

 

[soberups]

Between December 15 and January 20th there were only about 5 work days when I didn't have to chain up. We have had unusually heavy snow this winter and I have one of the worst routes in the building on snow days. I cant comprehend what it would be like if we werent given chains to use....

 

[Johney]

Are you saying the company wouldn't spend $300 for a set of chains?

$300 a set? No I don't think they would.

He asked if UPS supplied the chains and I answered that all package cars in my state have a set.

At $300 set?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

$300 a set? No I don't think they would.




At $300 set?

My question was rhetorical.

 

[soberups]

$300 a set? No I don't think they would.




At $300 set?

Yes, they would. I have 2 sets in my package car. $75 chains might be OK for a passenger car but for a fully loaded package car you need heavy-duty chains. From time to time they have tried cheaper chains but they always wind up breaking. PEWAG brand chains are the only way to go.

 

[soberups]

I took this photo leaving our building on December 15th. A lot of guys chain up out on the street because there isnt room on the property. And every car has $300 PEWAGS.