satellitedriver
Senior Member
I am a scab and even I know that what you state is a crock ofThe only thing you can destroy is your own career.. Your union is powerless..
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I am a scab and even I know that what you state is a crock ofThe only thing you can destroy is your own career.. Your union is powerless..
had three managers try to take trucks out at last strike and they never made it out of the lot. just give me the chance to prove what i will or will not do and you will see a TYPICAL union members organization skills.now go back to eating your doughnut and reading the paper in your cubicle and dreaming of being a union member yourself.
And when someone does deliver in your area you won't do anything about it. Typical union, all talk no action... Keep paying your dues to a weak union. I guarantee you that if you do strike, it will be a union member delivering in your area. You guys are not united anymore.
And when someone does deliver in your area you won't do anything about it. Typical union, all talk no action... Keep paying your dues to a weak union. I guarantee you that if you do strike, it will be a union member delivering in your area. You guys are not united anymore.
Maybe where UPS decided to ship you out for the 30th time there may be no union presence, I buy that much of your story. However, I guarantee you this isn't the case in and around the general vicinity of all major cities on the eastern sea board. All I ever read from you on these boards is how weak the union is and how you discipline people who attempt to socialize with Teamster agents. You obviously are a manager in some backwards country center that consists of 1 center and 10 routes. You truly have no idea what happens to managers like you when a real local union enters the equation. I'll give you a hint -- they get shipped out of town with their tail between their legs. I've seen it happen more times than I can count on two hands. I totally agree that as a whole the IBT is weak because Hoffa is weak, but believe me there are locals in this nation that hold a lot of weight.
Some of what you say here is out of jealousy, partially stemming from the outrageous pay and benefits plan FT'ers are recieving. However, you are correct in that the majority of union UPS'ers are weak.
Jealousy?? I'm not sure if I follow. I have nothing to be jealous about. I am better off than any union worker at UPS.
Jealousy?? I'm not sure if I follow. I have nothing to be jealous about. I am better off than any union worker at UPS.
Yeah, you made out with the IPO, big deal. Yeah, you have a higher salary than all hourly workers, big deal. At the end of the day you didn't work hard for what you have -- so it means nothing.
All I have to do is go to the locker room and wash the dirt and filth off from this job at the end of every weekday. You, my friend, have stuff on your hands that will never wash off and I wouldn't want that for all the tea in China.
Maybe where UPS decided to ship you out for the 30th time there may be no union presence, I buy that much of your story. However, I guarantee you this isn't the case in and around the general vicinity of all major cities on the eastern sea board. All I ever read from you on these boards is how weak the union is and how you discipline people who attempt to socialize with Teamster agents. You obviously are a manager in some backwards country center that consists of 1 center and 10 routes. You truly have no idea what happens to managers like you when a real local union enters the equation. I'll give you a hint -- they get shipped out of town with their tail between their legs. I've seen it happen more times than I can count on two hands. I totally agree that as a whole the IBT is weak because Hoffa is weak, but believe me there are locals in this nation that hold a lot of weight.
Well, like you said , as long as YOU are happy telling yourself that. Much like the union is useless, so is UPS. Think about it- you are a low-level supervisor that went nowhere and at the end of the line. No blinders will change reality, sorry.
I have run into hundreds of FT supervisors, and not one is in a better position than a union hourly. Zero. Not one.
Congrats on being the one example of hundreds ( in your own little mind)![]()
When a union member works during an authorized strike, standard procedure is for the Local to fine the member for doing so. The fine is traditionally equal to the amount of money the union member makes during the strike. Thus the union member knows in advance that if he works during a legal strike, he is working for free. All the grief he will get for working is a kind of Bonus.
The fine could be higher than the amount of money earned, of course. This is all quite legal. A member who doesn't pay his fine will be take to Court and ordered by a Judge to pay his fine.
had three managers try to take trucks out at last strike and they never made it out of the lot. just give me the chance to prove what i will or will not do and you will see a TYPICAL union members organization skills.now go back to eating your doughnut and reading the paper in your cubicle and dreaming of being a union member yourself.
Do not know what you mean by better position....... if you mean financially each individual has their own goals, what you consider a lot of money i probably don"t because i have different goals from you. if you mean opportunity to better yourself then management is the way to go, if you are happy going to work everyday doing the same thing so be it.
If anyone was a Teamsters Union Member during the Strike of '97 and crossed the picket line to work, let's here from you. 2 Units want's to know if you got fined or were allowed to keep your 30 pieces of silver.That may be standard procedure but does it really happen or is it just a threat of it happening?
Do not know what you mean by better position....... if you mean financially each individual has their own goals, what you consider a lot of money i probably don"t because i have different goals from you. if you mean opportunity to better yourself then management is the way to go, if you are happy going to work everyday doing the same thing so be it.