Stuff like this happens more often than it should

[soberups]

You guys had a lot of angst to get rid of last night LOL

You feel dishonest doing something you're told, take a pic of message and document it.
You're not going to get fired for sheeting a package the way they tell you
Actually, you get fired for not working as directed
You can do what they say and still call the ethics hotline, it's not either or

They put their ass on the line by sending the message over the diad, not yours.

Actually, you can get a warning letter for not working as directed.

You can also file a grievance; being instructed to falsify delivery records is a violation of Article 37's prohibition on over-supervision, harassment and coercion.

The bottom line is that we don't have to mindlessly obey every little message that comes to us through the DIAD.

 

[soberups]

Sheet as CL, in Remarks put "PER ODS". Done.

They can deny ever sending you that message. They can also erase anything you put in the remarks column.

 

[The Driver]

They can deny ever sending you that message. They can also erase anything you put in the remarks column.

Interesting. In what cases would the hammer come down on a driver should he falsify a record while working as directed?
Who is truly accountable?

 

[Brownslave688]

Sheet as CL, in Remarks put "PER ODS". Done.

And the ods will deny it if that's what it comes down to.

Guys and girls let me make this real simple for you.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FALSIFY RECORDS. YOU WILL
BE HELD LIABLE REGARDLESS IF INSTRUCTED BY MANAGEMENT OR NOT!!!!!!!!!

 

[Brownslave688]

They can deny ever sending you that message. They can also erase anything you put in the remarks column.

Finally a man with some sense.

 

[soberups]

Interesting. In what cases would the hammer come down on a driver should he falsify a record while working as directed?
Who is truly accountable?

That's a question you probably don't ever want to learn the answer to.

If the customer tracks the package, calls in a complaint, and makes a big enough stink about it, then at some point Loss Prevention could get involved. Loss Prevention is a separate entity, totally outside of the operations management structure, and if you ever wind up in a situation where you are sitting in the office and being questioned by them you will damn well want to be telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Loss Prevention will fire a lying management person just as quick as they will fire a lying hourly.

Its really simple. Tell the truth. Scan all packages honestly. If its missed it is missed.

 

[Raw]

What if it is closed? I`m more concerned about sheeting the pkg as closed when I`m not in front of building with the GPS red flag on the daily reports.......

 

[The Driver]

What if it is closed? I`m more concerned about sheeting the pkg as closed when I`m not in front of building with the GPS red flag on the daily reports.......

My thoughts exactly. I think, being new, I'd send in a message asking them if it's okay to sheet as closed even though I'm not at the delivery point and take pictures of each message with a timestamp on the photo.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

What if it is closed? I`m more concerned about being naked when I`m not in front of building with the GPS red flag on the daily under shorts.......

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Sheet as CL, in Remarks put "PER ODS". Done.

Since it was a "known closure" I used CLO H.

Some battles are worth fighting----this is not one of them. This is not one of my customers and I couldn't care less whether they got it on Thursday or Friday.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What if it is closed? I`m more concerned about sheeting the pkg as closed when I`m not in front of building with the GPS red flag on the daily reports.......

That was my initial concern as I was an hour away from the stop.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Since i was drunk

Some battles are worth fighting----this is not one of them. This is not one of my customers .

Hmm.....

 

[The Other Side]

The real problem with "Sheeting" is UPS itself. The countless "LISTS" that the center has to comply with creates a culture of dishonesty within the supervisory ranks.

NONE of them want to appear on any of these lists. Supervisors will tell us to:

late air?? no problem, weather delay, even here in sunny california.

after 5pm business? no problem, sheet as "NOT READY " and bring back to center.

off area misload? no problem, sheet as "LABEL TORN OFF" and bring back to center.

Cant make service on a 1030am NDA? No problem, change the zip code to a 12 noon area and deliver.

Think this is untrue?

Then you dont work for UPS.

Maybe if ATLANTA spent some time with us drivers, they would see it all.

Whats the saying?

Get the big picture! Stay back and see it all!

TOS.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Changing zip codes to alter the commit time?

Yeah, right.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

pre recording packages to alter the commit time?

Yeah, right.

Why?