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You're faced with going into one of these areas with these threats to do your job. Do you do it?
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You're faced with going into one of these areas with these threats to do your job. Do you do it?
What's there to stop them? Happened all the time at my terminal and is still practiced today because terminal management will not pay for temps to run open contracts. And since contractors have no broad based arbitration rights they just end up with areas they don't want but can't refuse......It's either "here it is pal, eat it and smile or you're the next to go".
rod
Retired 23 years
After a while they will get the hint. "Clean up their hood." Screw em--let them drive their stolen cars to pick up their crap.
Outside of dogs box mules do not generally get attacked by people at my station aside from having guns pulled on them from time to time. The problem was mechanical inaccessibility to the location and these were single often one box one time only stops and it didn't happen often if you had a vehicle with off road capability.
Now in the case of entire sections of a city that contractor will sooner or later be pressured by management to return to it even if it's not completely safe........BTW. There are no Walgreens in my forest and DG's are 40 miles apart.
Working4the1%
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So how much are police escorts costing.......then you wokeup
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
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Judge me.
Theyre just saying they were carjacked, after the fact. Reality, they left the truck running, doors open and was sprinting down the block trying to run off 4 stops of chewy boxes.
It will be fine
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Pretty much everyone has dash cams installed now. I’ve seen the videos. It’s scary stuff.
It will be fine
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I’m not sure why you so adamantly deny something you have no knowledge of. There are many high crime areas that have police escorts for Ground trucks. I’ve met contractors in Chicago that tell me their trucks don’t roll without escorts all year long. My terminal has 4-5 escorts for high crime areas all of peak and there were plenty during the latest unrest. You obviously don’t actually know anything about it, why is this a hill you want to die on?
Cactus
Just telling it like it is
Nah. He’s not able to come crawling back there since he’s never worked there to begin with.
The police might give you an escort into that high crime area. But they're not going to waste taxpayer funded man hours posting an officer nearby while your guy goes around from stop to stop. Neither the mayor or the chief of police will permit it Sure, they might give you that escort into the area but from that point onward it becomes a private security issue. And in your situation given that you're one of those "entrepreneur" contractors it's your security problem and your dollars solving it. Bank armored car companies bring their own heat. So be prepared for the not too far in the distant day when you have to supply your own and nobody's going to ride shotgun on your carts for state minimum wage.
It will be fine
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That’s some quality uniformed fiction. I like your confidence while being completely wrong.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Are you trying to tell me that uniformed police officers are going to spend the entire day going around from stop to stop protecting your delivery driver? LMAO. How long do you think you could get away with it? What if UPS or the USPS or Brink's or Amazon all requested the same protective services?
It will be fine
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FedEx pays for it.
Right. it's only going to go on for as long as Fat Freddy will cover it but it will not go on forever because if past history is any indication they'll do it for awhile but when the cost starts bumping against the budget it will be up to you to foot the bill from that point onward .
How RRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAACCCCCIIIIIIISSSSSSSSTTTTT of them. You acknowledge the realities on the ground if white people aren't involved and you're going dowwwwwwn, son! LOL
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It’s been happening for many years. The contractors I know won’t dispatch without them. The areas aren’t desirable so it’s never been an issue. No TM is going to put their name on the decision to remove security and have a driver death on their hands.
He's YOUR driver. His well being while on the job is on YOU. Now if Fat Freddy is not contractually bound to bear the cost of providing security to your drivers then there's no requirement that he continue to do so. He can quit anytime he wants .
At the same time however the need for protective security personnel on board has now been established because Fat Freddy's actions prove it and in doing so he did you no favors because he's now put you in a position of having no choice but to begin to bear the cost should he decide that he's now longer willing to because the past practice has been long established and it will be the controlling factor not on whether or not you can afford to pay it.