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if we didnt drop the bomb on japan we might be speaking Japanese right now, not to mention the millions of life it saved
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Iran doesn’t have a single nuclear weapon.
The US, however: • has 6,800 nukes • and remains the only country on Earth to have ever dropped atomic bombs—incinerating more than 225,000 innocents in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Save your lecture for your own government, hypocrite.
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Jkloc420
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how many lifes do you think would of been lost invading japan
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i speak japanese
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From NPR:
'Hell To Pay' Sheds New Light On A-Bomb Decision
"American war planners projected that a land invasion of Japan could cost the lives of up to a million U.S. soldiers and many more Japanese. These figures, Giangreco explains, were estimated based on terrain, the number of units fielded, and the number of enemy units they would have to fight.
"Around 1944," Giangreco says, "they ultimately came to the conclusion that the casualties on the low end would be somewhere around the neighborhood of a quarter-million, and on the upper end, in through the million range."
Giangreco says that many Americans and Japanese lives were saved by avoiding a land invasion of Japan.
"It's astounding," he says. "While we were looking at some of our own casualty estimates, the Japanese military was doing much the same thing, and the figure of 20 million appears again and again."
Giangreco says just the number "20 million" is horrific — but he is most stunned by the casualness with which it was used by Japanese military leaders who felt that the loss of life was worth it."
DriveInDriveOut
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They were ready to surrender.
It might not have been unconditional, but they would have given up without an invasion. The bombs weren't exactly necessary.
That being said, someone was going to drop one at some point, you don't spend that kind of money and hold that kind of power without exerting it. The real goal was to show the world our power and instill fear. So, glad it was us I guess.
From the same article above:
"The Difference Between Defeat And Surrender
The invasions and battles at Okinawa and Iwo Jima were ruinous for the Japanese, but Giangreco describes how the Americans and the Japanese derived completely different conclusions from the same conflicts. The Americans extrapolated that the battles were bloody and costly — but in the end it was worth it because they thought the Japanese understood that the U.S. would prevail. The Japanese looked at those same casualties and felt the loss of life was worth it because it sent a message to the Americans that the Japanese were prepared to suffer casualties at a rate the Americans were not.
Some historians argue that Japan was already essentially defeated in 1945, even if it didn't know that. Giangreco says there is a lot to that argument but that "defeat and surrender are two very different things."
Giangreco suspects it would have been much harder to convince the Japanese to surrender than it was to convince the Germans.
"The Germans at least surrendered in very large numbers when they saw a hopeless situation," he says. The only time large numbers of Japanese troops laid down their arms was in Manchuria, when Emperor Hirohito ordered them to surrender."
Jkloc420
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no, they were not going to surrender, they fight to the death and did not surrender after the first bomb
DriveInDriveOut
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It says it right there, they surrender when their emperor tells them to. The guy was basically their god, and he would have surrendered.
rod
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NEVER SURRENDER---that's my motto.
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rod
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we would of lost if you were sent
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