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rickyb

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He did run for president. And you give him too much credit.
no one understands corporate power better than ralph nader.

you can say about trump what qualified him to run as president? after all he was business man. but he could have been honest and knowledgable enough to be president too. but he wasnt. but just cuz he was a business man, doesnt mean he couldnt have also been a good president.
 

vantexan

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no one understands corporate power better than ralph nader.

you can say about trump what qualified him to run as president? after all he was business man. but he could have been honest and knowledgable enough to be president too. but he wasnt. but just cuz he was a business man, doesnt mean he couldnt have also been a good president.
And yet Trump ran a large corporation and applied those skills to greatly benefit the country.
 

rickyb

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Again with the Greeks? Lol
@vantexan the french and german banks were already bankrupt from american derivatives in 2008. the european central bank can not bail out banks the way the american bank can. the already bankrupt french and german banks lent 200 billion to the greeks. so they just shifted the losses from the banks to the tax payers. so it was money from rich western countries went to the greek govt which then went to the french and german banks. the french and german banks were already bailed out by their govts, so it was politically unfeasable for them to be bailed out again. and greeks debts are still unpayable to this day.
 

rickyb

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And yet Trump ran a large corporation and applied those skills to greatly benefit the country.
no he was dishonest and probably wouldnt know how to help america anyways even if he was honest.

and htats besides the point. the point is what qualifies anyone to know anything about politics.
 

vantexan

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@vantexan the french and german banks were already bankrupt from american derivatives in 2008. the european central bank can not bail out banks the way the american bank can. the already bankrupt french and german banks lent 200 billion to the greeks. so they just shifted the losses from the banks to the tax payers. so it was money from rich western countries went to the greek govt which then went to the french and german banks. the french and german banks were already bailed out by their govts, so it was politically unfeasable for them to be bailed out again. and greeks debts are still unpayable to this day.
Hmmm, please tell us more about which European banks went bankrupt?
 

vantexan

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no he was dishonest and probably wouldnt know how to help america anyways even if he was honest.

and htats besides the point. the point is what qualifies anyone to know anything about politics.
How was he dishonest as president? Did any of his policies benefit us?
 

vantexan

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uhh in case you forgot US housing was worth alot of money in 2005 and a few years later it was worth 40% less

im not saying that will happen to the euro, but the euro certainly doesnt work.
People don't spend Euros in Europe... and what does that have to do with U.S. real estate?
 

rickyb

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How was he dishonest as president? Did any of his policies benefit us?
he was probably one of hte worst. the trend for US presidents is they have been getting worse every 4 years. i suggest you look up ralph nader's critique of trump for more. i already posted a big few page critique of trump breaking the law from ralph.
 

vantexan

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youre talking about the value of something and im saying values rapidly change so its not necessarily a good indicator of it working or not.
You do know U.S. real estate recovered, right? And I guess you better tell the EU its money doesn't work. Whatever will they do? Meanwhile you're doubling down on all this BS. Socialism doesn't work. Ralph Nader isn't God.
 
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