DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Ya, some of that equipment is tanks, ttku.
Terrorists
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Not exactly a well equipped modern army is it? Most of their firepower is on the back of pickup trucks.
And where do they get the shells? Is it like a Democrat budget, and ever endless stream?
governments almost always commit the most violence (violence for political means which is terrorism) of any organization in any country
GREENWALD: ...So, imagine if there was any kind of balance whatsoever, where we knew the names of any of the victims of the indiscriminate violence of our own government, let alone the comprehensive coverage of the victims that is devoted when we are the victims of violence, how much that would affect the perception that we have of the violence that our own government perpetrates. We keep it so abstract. We usually just hear 14 people died. The Pentagon claims that it’s militants and terrorists. It’s left at that. At best, we hear they finally acknowledge four civilians are killed, but it’s kept very ethereal, very distant and abstract. We never learn their names, as you said. We never hear from their families. We never hear their life aspirations extinguished. And if there was just some attention paid to telling the stories of the victims of our own government’s violence, I think there would be a radical shift in how we perceive of ourselves, the role we play in the world and who bears blame in this conflict.
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, I mean, look at how many times we read or hear reports that the United States has bombed a wedding party or a funeral. And there is never a description of, well, who was the bride, who was the groom, you know, who were the people that were killed, and what were their dreams. It’s unfathomable to me that if we had a wedding party in the United States that was somehow bombed in a terrorist incident, that we wouldn’t know the names of every single person who was killed. We would have heard about where the people were going to go on their honeymoon and, you know, the—what the bride looked like when she was preparing for it. We hear nothing about any of these people that are killed, with our tax dollars, in our name.
Trump just inked this deal with the Saudis for well over $100 billion. It could be as much as $400 billion when it’s all said and done. Defense stocks go to record highs. What does that—what are those weapons going to be used for? Well, in the immediate future, they’re going to be used for what they’re being used for now, which is to utterly destroy Yemen, where the United States and Saudi Arabia are absolutely razing to the ground the poorest country in the Arab world and have caused a catastrophic health crisis in that country, which already was facing a total completion of their water supply. We don’t think about victims of war in the same way that we talk about victims of school shootings in this country or victims of terrorism when it’s—when ISIS claims responsibility for it. It’s a problem.
GREENWALD: ...So, imagine if there was any kind of balance whatsoever, where we knew the names of any of the victims of the indiscriminate violence of our own government, let alone the comprehensive coverage of the victims that is devoted when we are the victims of violence, how much that would affect the perception that we have of the violence that our own government perpetrates. We keep it so abstract. We usually just hear 14 people died. The Pentagon claims that it’s militants and terrorists. It’s left at that. At best, we hear they finally acknowledge four civilians are killed, but it’s kept very ethereal, very distant and abstract. We never learn their names, as you said. We never hear from their families. We never hear their life aspirations extinguished. And if there was just some attention paid to telling the stories of the victims of our own government’s violence, I think there would be a radical shift in how we perceive of ourselves, the role we play in the world and who bears blame in this conflict.
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, I mean, look at how many times we read or hear reports that the United States has bombed a wedding party or a funeral. And there is never a description of, well, who was the bride, who was the groom, you know, who were the people that were killed, and what were their dreams. It’s unfathomable to me that if we had a wedding party in the United States that was somehow bombed in a terrorist incident, that we wouldn’t know the names of every single person who was killed. We would have heard about where the people were going to go on their honeymoon and, you know, the—what the bride looked like when she was preparing for it. We hear nothing about any of these people that are killed, with our tax dollars, in our name.
Trump just inked this deal with the Saudis for well over $100 billion. It could be as much as $400 billion when it’s all said and done. Defense stocks go to record highs. What does that—what are those weapons going to be used for? Well, in the immediate future, they’re going to be used for what they’re being used for now, which is to utterly destroy Yemen, where the United States and Saudi Arabia are absolutely razing to the ground the poorest country in the Arab world and have caused a catastrophic health crisis in that country, which already was facing a total completion of their water supply. We don’t think about victims of war in the same way that we talk about victims of school shootings in this country or victims of terrorism when it’s—when ISIS claims responsibility for it. It’s a problem.
can we do a 10 step response guide for when its our own governments doing the terrorism?
1. when our governments bomb people, say its not terrorism, its spreading democracy
2. dont worry, we wont take your oil
3. these are accurate weapons, no civilians will be harmed
4. kill first, ask questions later
maybe you can come up with some more.
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
Now you're plagiarizing from the Isis Playbook.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
The objective of war is to make the other fella die for his cause .
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
They have no problem dying for theirs. What about you?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Nothing since WWII.
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
So all talk and no action?
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I've talked about war?
I'm the one that said Trump should reduce budget for Military by at least 50%.
There is very little the US Armed Forces do for defence.
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
I'm just merely pointing out how most people on here are all talk but when it comes down putting their own life or their families life on the line they're very quiet.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
So you quoted my post to talk about everyone else?
Do that to DIDO!
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
I quoted your post Because you responded to me.
You must be hittin the good shiat today.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Taking a break for a week or so.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Fake.
no thats what a free man is willing to do to be free.
the objective of war is to win
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Yep ... Not many Fortunate Sons around.
Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one
Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! y'all
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