The 2020 Presidential Debates

The big package

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I don’t blame the tax code..he loses money and claims to be business genius..that is the reality he doesn’t want anyone to know
For somebody who loses money he sure has A LOT of it . I'll be happy to lose money if I can have a bank account and real estate like he's got !!!
 

The big package

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A dumb pretend to be rich racist.

Am I the only one that thinks that reasonable people can have legit disagreements about taxes..law enforcement policy..abortion..Covid policy..? All of these things can result in different opinions.

But that man and his behavior is unbelievable. If you think that is normal behavior or makes you somehow strong..I can’t even relate to you.

Before you try to imagine me as some bleeding heart liberal..I am a 6’2 200 pd white man that was All-state football. That want to be bully would get punched in the face
Kinda small to be an All-state football player . Kicker????
 

rod

Retired 23 years
For somebody who loses money he sure has A LOT of it . I'll be happy to lose money if I can have a bank account and real estate like he's got !!!
A friend of mine who owned a VERY profitable beer distributorship told me the largest salary he ever drew from the company was $17,000 a year. On that he he drove a top of the line Escalade furnished by his company and lived in a million dollar house on a lake that was in his kids name. His kid by the way got into an bad accident at work so his dad filed a work comp case against his own company. To this day it is still the largest comp settlement ever paid in Mn. His dad had his kid move into the house and while there had every room remodeled into being handicap accessible--including having a regular elevator installed. All the side walks were widened to 4 feet also. Once all the handicap work was done on the house his dad moved the kid into his own handicapped accessible apartment in town. ALL this was part of the settlement. The rich get richer.
 

newfie

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Not exactly Scientific but a sampling of the audience of C-SPAN.
My guess is most C-SPAN viewers are Conservative.

yea I expected that rebuttal from one of the lefties here but not you :wink-very: Next Poll

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newfie

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Before you try to imagine me as some bleeding heart liberal..I am a 6’2 200 pd white man that was All-state football. That want to be bully would get punched in the face

oh no you didnt. When i was in the army everyone in my unit claimed to be all state football back in their home state.

your brand of extreme liberalism is a mental disorder not a physical one.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
yea I expected that rebuttal from one of the lefties here but not you :wink-very: Next Poll

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Not a rebuttal but info for those that don't have time to check it out. I try to be objective.
I hate going on Twitter so I was driven by understanding.
That guy on the left in this post is a left-wing pundit so this convinces me more that Trump won the debate than your C-SPAN results.
I watched the debate and I was laughing too hard to tell who was winning.

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The big package

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Not a rebuttal but info for those that don't have time to check it out. I try to be objective.
I hate going on Twitter so I was driven by understanding.
That guy on the left in this post is a left-wing pundit so this convinces me more that Trump won the debate than your C-SPAN results.
I watched the debate and I was laughing too hard to tell who was winning.

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Yes , and nobody is even talking about the telemundo stations Hispanic poll results are about the same Trump 65 % Biden 33% That is huge !!! I've been saying this for a couple of years , Democrats want to let Latino people come here illegally but what they don't realize is that Hispanics are mostly Conservatives by nature !!!!
 

MAKAVELI

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Yes , and nobody is even talking about the telemundo stations Hispanic poll results are about the same Trump 65 % Biden 33% That is huge !!! I've been saying this for a couple of years , Democrats want to let Latino people come here illegally but what they don't realize is that Hispanics are mostly Conservatives by nature !!!!
Older generation born south of the border, maybe. Not even close for the young, born north of the border.
 

refineryworker05

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Trump was completely unhinged and spouting dangerous bs. A sitting president saying American elections are corrupt, telling his supporters to monitor how other Americans vote, telling a white racist group to stand back and stand by can all end with violence.

This is whole thing gets to the true heart of Republican political ideology for regular voters. When Obama won, regular republicans immediately started doubting the efficacy of US elections and elected republicans started passing new voters laws in response to those doubts. It’s all just justification to avoid the truth, they don’t want certain groups of Americans to have the ability to direct the future of this nation politically, and they want to limit those groups ability to impact the political system and elect another President Obama. This kind of thinking is very dangerous but it’s why trump knows he can denigrate American elections and it’s why republicans all over have been working over time to make it harder to vote because republicans don’t value those elections if they believe that the wrong kinds of Americans can decide the outcomes.
Biden’s performance was mediocre to slightly below average, but compared to the insanity of trump he looked great by comparison.
 

refineryworker05

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Wow a debate moderator asking questions what a fiend that Chris Wallace is. And he asked a question he asked before, The corruption of asking a politician the same question in a debate. Why no politician in the history of America has ever been asked the same question by a debate moderator 4 years apart. Look at how unfair the world is to trump. This is the argument trump fans are going with because trump’s debate performance was horrible and insane. trump fans are delusional. Truly delusional. Like can’t they just say hey trump has to do better and move on? Nope instead they invent that Chris Wallace was unfair to trump and favored Biden. Just delusional
 

refineryworker05

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Oh and voters overwhelmingly think Biden won that debate. It’s not even close.
1) A CNN post-debate poll showed 60% of debate watchers said Biden did a better job in the debate, while 28% said Trump did.
2) A CBS News poll of debate watchers showed 48% thought Biden won as compared to 41% who thought Trump did. The rest -- 10% -- called the debate a tie.

Half of all voters who watched Tuesday’s debate said Joe Biden outperformed Donald Trump in their first televised showdown, according to a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, with an overwhelming majority of respondents blaming the president for what they described as a disruptive event and an overall unpleasant viewing experience.

The survey, conducted the day after the candidates’ clash in Cleveland, found that 50 percent of debate watchers surveyed said Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, performed the best. Just 34 percent said the same about the Republican incumbent
 

refineryworker05

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Those polls are bad polls because they are non scientific.

But my best guess is that Trump is conflating actual, scientific polls -- like the two I noted above -- with non-scientific, Internet polls which, among other methodological flaws, allow a single person to cast as many votes as they like.

Breitbart, a strongly pro-Trump "news" site, conducts just such a poll. According to its most recent results, more than 87% of respondents said that Trump won the debate. (Who are these people? Do they represent an accurate sample of the electorate? We have no way of knowing!) There's a similar sort of "poll" at the bottom of this AL.com article on the debate. (Of the 369,000 respondents, 52% said Trump won the debate while 48% chose Biden.)
 

refineryworker05

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This is an unscientific poll that allows people to vote more than once. Again all the scientific polls show trump lost handily. He was unhinged and insane during that debate. That’s why trump supporters are out here upset with Chris Wallace and pretending he was against trump by asking him questions and favored Biden.
 
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