The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

[Doublestandards]

Why are you using the word "would"?

You are rejecting reality.

Didn't invade under Trump.
Did invade under Biden Harris.

Trump says it himself all the time. “Putin wouldn’t have invaded if I was president”. I was asking you why you think he wouldn’t. Guess it’s just another one to the list of questions you won’t answer

Carry on

 

[Box Ox]

Doesn’t take much to realize Putin was waiting until trumps second term to invade

Waiting until Trump's second term to invade what? Maybe I'm misreading something here.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Trump says it himself all the time. “Putin wouldn’t have invaded if I was president”. I was asking you why you think he wouldn’t.

Because he didn't.

What mental block is preventing you from accepting that undeniable reality?

 

[Doublestandards]

Waiting until Trump's second term to invade what? Maybe I'm misreading something here.

Trump and Putin had multiple conversations. Trump made a point to throw out our translators. He didn’t want any record of the conversations

The deal was probably “wait until my second term to invade, and we’ll stay out of it”. It would only hurt his election chances to have that going on right before the elections. And MAGA has clearly been working overtime on telling its people to not support Ukraine

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Trump and Putin had multiple conversations. Trump made a point to throw out our translators. He didn’t want any record of the conversations

The deal was probably “wait until my second term to invade, and we’ll stay out of it”. It would only hurt his election chances to have that going on right before the elections. And MAGA has clearly been working overtime on telling its people to not support Ukraine

Oh okay, so all you've got are silly conspiracy theories.
Yawn.

 

[Box Ox]

MAGA has clearly been working overtime on telling its people to not support Ukraine

Yep. I think we're both pro-Ukraine. Do you think the war would end with more favorable terms for them in 2025 or 2026 than it would now if Kamala were elected and she continued the current level of military and economic support for Ukraine?

 

[Doublestandards]

Yep. I think we're both pro-Ukraine. Do you think the war would end with more favorable terms for them in 2025 or 2026 than it would now if Kamala were elected and she continued the current level of military and economic support for Ukraine?

I think it would be in russias best interest for Trump to be elected, which is their plan and what they’re working on and have been working on since 2016

 

[Box Ox]

Yep. I think we're both pro-Ukraine. Do you think the war would end with more favorable terms for them in 2025 or 2026 than it would now if Kamala were elected and she continued the current level of military and economic support for Ukraine?

I think it would be in russias best interest for Trump to be elected, which is their plan and what they’re working on and have been working on since 2016

Do we think Ukraine has the manpower to keep the war going for longer and end it on better terms than Trump might want them to agree to early next year?

 

[Doublestandards]

Do we think Ukraine has the manpower to keep the war going for longer and end it on better terms than Trump might want them to agree to early next year?

If Trump wins he will most likely veto any spending that republicans and democrats both agreed upon to help Ukraine.
With North Korea and Iran helping Russia now, Ukraine wouldn’t have great chances without our help, and Russia wouldn’t stop after he’s done with Ukraine

 

[Box Ox]

If Trump wins he will most likely veto any spending that republicans and democrats both agreed upon to help Ukraine.
With North Korea and Iran helping Russia now, Ukraine wouldn’t have great chances without our help

Ukraine would have a solid chance if a president Kamala and congress were to continue our support?

Russia wouldn’t stop after he’s done with Ukraine

I agree. And I'm concerned that Russia's odds of taking even more or all of Ukraine might only increase as the war continues.

 

[Doublestandards]

Ukraine would have a solid chance if a president Kamala and congress were to continue our support?

I would think so, don’t you? They’ve been holding off pretty well now so far, considering how many soldiers Russia has sent and now North Korea sending soldiers as well

I agree. And I'm concerned that Russia's odds of taking even more or all of Ukraine might only increase as the war continues.

Absolutely

 

[Box Ox]

Ukraine would have a solid chance if a president Kamala and congress were to continue our support?

I would think so, don’t you? They’ve been holding off pretty well now so far, considering how many soldiers Russia has sent and now North Korea sending soldiers as well

I think Ukrainians are very smart and capable. But they'll probably have to start conscripting their under 25 population if the war continues. Especially if Ukraine ever plans to go on the offensive again. And it seems like internal resistance toward losing any hope of a reproductive future might be quite high. Especially if it's unlikely to change the final lines of control in Ukraine's favor.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

If Trump wins he will most likely veto any spending that republicans and democrats both agreed upon to help Ukraine.
With North Korea and Iran helping Russia now, Ukraine wouldn’t have great chances without our help, and Russia wouldn’t stop after he’s done with Ukraine

Democrats are the pro war party.

Not even hiding it anymore.

 

[Doublestandards]

Democrats are the pro war party.

Not even hiding it anymore.

so when democrats do it they’re the pro war party, but when republicans do it it’s “peace through strength”

Sounds like propaganda to me

 

[Box Ox]

Democrats are the pro war party.

Not even hiding it anymore.

so when democrats do it they’re the pro war party, but when republicans do it it’s “peace through strength”

Sounds like propaganda to me

The goal of peace through strength is for war to not happen in the first place isn't it?

 

[Doublestandards]

The goal of peace through strength is for war to not happen in the first place, isn't it?

Trump dropped more bombs than any other president before him, he’s not anti war is my point

 

[Doublestandards]

Think a very large chunk of that was from when we were dealing with ISIS coming out of the Obama years.

And then bush then Clinton and then…

Whole world’s been fighting always. Russia and Ukraine isn’t new, neither is Israel and palenstine.

It didn’t start under Biden and it didn’t stop under Trump

 

[Over70irregs]

People aren't going to vote for Trump because a comedian most people have never heard of told a joke?

Pathetically stupid narrative from the leftist media. Not going to work.

PR in the US have a vendetta…. Interesting

 

[vantexan]

Speaking of Hunter, where is @vantexan? Is he ok?

Appreciate you asking. Saturday before last my left eye went blurry. Decided I wasn't having a stroke at ER. Got shots in both eyes the following Monday. Bleeding in my retinas from diabetic retinopathy. Have been able to make out enough with my right eye. I have more shots over the next couple of months and possible eye surgery. This along with anemia, edema, and high blood pressure from congestive heart failure is keeping me.busy. Iron infusion for the anemia, blood pressure meds, and a new diuretic that has me peeing like a racehorse. I'm actually improving.

 

[oldngray]

Such a silly argument.

He was president once and it seems many people were pretty happy with him. Maybe not you but it certainly sounds like many people are and are planning on voting for him.

You’ve failed to make the case that he’s a tyrant. Should’ve stuck with just telling us why his policies were bad.