The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Your links don't show he dropped more bombs than any other president like you claimed.

You want to try again?
*drone strikes

Trump dropped more bombs than bush and Obama, but he even far outdid Obama’s drone strikes, and even went so far as to change the rule on reporting civilian deaths from them


 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right

Appvol

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*drone strikes

Trump dropped more bombs than bush and Obama, but he even far outdid Obama’s drone strikes, and even went so far as to change the rule on reporting civilian deaths from them


And Obama bombed a citizen
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
The words you're looking for are:
"I was wrong".
I was wrong.

I said Trump dropped more bombs than any other president. I meant Trump dropped more drone strikes than Obama and far exceeded his bombing and civilian deaths

“In Iraq and Syria, data shows that the United States is dropping bombs at unprecedented levels. In July, the coalition to defeat the Islamic State (read: the United States) dropped 4,313 bombs, 77 percent more than it dropped last July. In June, the number was 4,848 — 1,600 more bombs than were dropped in any one month under President Barack Obama since the anti-ISIS campaign started three years ago.”

“Trump has also escalated U.S. military involvement in non-battlefield settings — namely Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan. In the last 193 days of the Obama presidency, there were 21 lethal counterterrorism operations across these three countries. Trump has quintupled that number, conducting at least 92 such operations in Yemen, seven in Somalia, and four in Pakistan.”

“Hand in hand with Trump’s enthusiasm for air power comes a demonstrated tolerance for civilian casualties. Increased air power in Iraq and Syria has resulted in unprecedented levels of civilian deaths. Even by the military’s own count, civilian casualties have soared since Trump took office, though independent monitors tally the deaths as many as ten times higher. In Afghanistan, Trump’s tolerance for killing civilians has led to 67 percent more civilian casualties in his first six months than in the first half of 2016, according to the United Nations.”

One thing is for sure though, Trump is not anti war
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
I was wrong.

I said Trump dropped more bombs than any other president. I meant Trump dropped more drone strikes than Obama and far exceeded his bombing and civilian deaths

“In Iraq and Syria, data shows that the United States is dropping bombs at unprecedented levels. In July, the coalition to defeat the Islamic State (read: the United States) dropped 4,313 bombs, 77 percent more than it dropped last July. In June, the number was 4,848 — 1,600 more bombs than were dropped in any one month under President Barack Obama since the anti-ISIS campaign started three years ago.”

“Trump has also escalated U.S. military involvement in non-battlefield settings — namely Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan. In the last 193 days of the Obama presidency, there were 21 lethal counterterrorism operations across these three countries. Trump has quintupled that number, conducting at least 92 such operations in Yemen, seven in Somalia, and four in Pakistan.”

“Hand in hand with Trump’s enthusiasm for air power comes a demonstrated tolerance for civilian casualties. Increased air power in Iraq and Syria has resulted in unprecedented levels of civilian deaths. Even by the military’s own count, civilian casualties have soared since Trump took office, though independent monitors tally the deaths as many as ten times higher. In Afghanistan, Trump’s tolerance for killing civilians has led to 67 percent more civilian casualties in his first six months than in the first half of 2016, according to the United Nations.”

One thing is for sure though, Trump is not anti war
Oh Harry….
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Trump dropped more bombs than any other president
Your links don't show he dropped more bombs than any other president like you claimed.
*drone strikes
The words you're looking for are:
"I was wrong".
I was wrong.
Cool.


Then 10 minutes later:
Despite .... dropping more bombs
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Why did Obama ramp up bombings for four years before Trump took over?

Why did bombings decrease after Trump took over?

Your political party plunged us into a war in Syria.
Trump got us out of it.

Biden Harris plunged the world back into chaos.
Time for Trump to fix it again.
Bombings didn’t decrease under Trump. They increased. By a lot.

Trump dropped more bombs than Obama did. A lot more
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Yes they did.
44,000 the year he inherited Obama's war.
2800 the year Trump left office.

That's decreasing buddy.

bombings escalated during Obama’s presidency. 30,743 bombs were dropped in Iraq and Syria during 2016.

Bombings reached their peak during Trump’s presidency. 39,577 bombs were dropped in Iraq and Syria during 2017.

Using this data, the average number of bombs dropped in Iraq and Syria during Obama’spresidency is 8,234 bombs. For Trump, this number is 13,552. This means that the number of bombs dropped under Trump is 164.59% of what was dropped under Obama.

As for Afghanistan, Obama averaged a yearly 3,276. Trump averaged a yearly 5,194. Trump’s presidency saw 158.55% of the bombs that Obama’s presidency saw.”
 
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