The Border Crisis: Is Allowing Illegals To Flood In A Good Thing?

[Over70irregs]

So the prices are gonna go down? Where can I get that? Send that roofer here to me and he has a job. My house is 3000sq ft under roof.

Sorry that was a cash hookup. Mine was cheaper than that. Funny thing I was throwing away old mail and found an old quote for 10k. If you have a roof coming up get it done!!

 

[Babagounj]

DOJ orders federally funded legal service providers to stop providing support at immigration courts

The Department of Justice has told legal service providers who receive federal funding to stop providing legal orientation to immigrants at immigration courts.

abcnews.go.com

 

[bottomups]

Seen the price of eggs recently..they are sell a dozen at 5.50 at the dollar store today. Need to bring down the cost of fuel and eggs as a sign of decreasing inflation..

$31 for two dozen eggs yesterday. I'm just happy I found some.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Seen the price of eggs recently..they are sell a dozen at 5.50 at the dollar store today. Need to bring down the cost of fuel and eggs as a sign of decreasing inflation..

They need to stop killing all the chickens.

 

[Darmark7]

They need to stop killing all the chickens.

Bird Flu! You would think they would just put mask on them and keep them 6ft from any sick ones.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Bird Flu! You would think they would just put mask on them and keep them 6ft from any sick ones.

It’s a crock

 

[bottomups]

$31 for two dozen eggs yesterday. I'm just happy I found some.

 

[Thebrownblob]

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Ahhh Hawaii.

 

[UnionStrong]

Ahhh Hawaii.

Land of leftists and Gays.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Land of leftists and Gays.

I thought that was California?

 

[UnionStrong]

I thought that was California?

Only So. Cal.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Only So Cal.

@542thruNthru

 

[UnionStrong]

@542thruNthru

Absolutely

 

[542thruNthru]

@542thruNthru

Absolutely

 

[oldngray]

 

[DELACROIX]

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Trump has only been in office 5 days, what have the Democrats been doing over the last four ?

Average Price of a dozen eggs in 2020 …1.52

Average Price of a dozen eggs currently…6.72

It was Trump’s fault….

 

[Thebrownblob]

Too bad that's not what the 14th amendment says.

“The Fourteenth Amendment begins, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The key phrase to consider there when considering who is a "natural-born citizen" is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The argument of Trump's legal supporters is that illegal immigrants are subject to a foreign sovereignty, are therefore not subject to U.S. jurisdiction, and thus the citizenship clause above does not apply.

The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause, ignored by birthright citizenship advocates, has to have some meaning or it wouldn't have been included, and the number of children of foreign diplomats being vanishingly small, we can assume it extended beyond that extremely rare case (so rare as hardly to be worth mentioning).

What was meant by the clause was that you had to be subject to no other sovereign.

Senator Jacob Howard drafted the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Here is what he said it meant: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." (Emphasis added.)

Well, if we value honesty, that right there should settle it.

Congressman John Bingham, sometimes called the father of the Fourteenth Amendment itself, held that its meaning was that "every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”

The birthright citizenship con

 

[Thebrownblob]

Silly to expect prices to magically drop in 1 day

Not really even silly just intellectually, dishonest. A common theme.

 

[govols019]

“The Fourteenth Amendment begins, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The key phrase to consider there when considering who is a "natural-born citizen" is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The argument of Trump's legal supporters is that illegal immigrants are subject to a foreign sovereignty, are therefore not subject to U.S. jurisdiction, and thus the citizenship clause above does not apply.

The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause, ignored by birthright citizenship advocates, has to have some meaning or it wouldn't have been included, and the number of children of foreign diplomats being vanishingly small, we can assume it extended beyond that extremely rare case (so rare as hardly to be worth mentioning).

What was meant by the clause was that you had to be subject to no other sovereign.

Senator Jacob Howard drafted the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Here is what he said it meant: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." (Emphasis added.)

Well, if we value honesty, that right there should settle it.

Congressman John Bingham, sometimes called the father of the Fourteenth Amendment itself, held that its meaning was that "every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”

They and their parents are subject to the jurisdiction of our country when they are here..if not, we couldn't arrest, fine, imprison or deport them.

While their parents are in this country they are automatically granted due process rights under our constitution. It's what makes us who we are as a people.

If you want to make the argument against the child being an American automatically means the parents get to stay I won't disagree with that. They can either give the child up to foster care/adoption or take the child back with them to their country. When the child is of age it can come back to this country if they wish.

Maybe because travel was so much harder when this language was written could explain why the ambassador language was included...when ambassadors and ministers got here they were here for awhile.

The Sen. Howard quote says exactly what the 14th amendment says. Foreigner and aliens are attached to the who belong to language.

I don't like putting conditions on citizenship and don't like trying to change the meaning of amendments to fit our prejudices. It's like people saying the well regulated part of the 2nd amendment gives the government rights to take away my guns.

I have a friend that was born on Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland in 1973...they lived there for 6 months before moving to Tennessee...he is now and always be a Yankee. Where your born is where your from.

 

[govols019]

Not really even silly just intellectually, dishonest. A common theme.

I dont really like eggs but I didn't know they had gotten this high. Dont ask me why I screenshot the price of eggs in 2023.... I have no idea why.