It's just something I heard. Doesn't mean anything. Besides it'll be the members that have the last say either way.
Target is starting people out in some places at 24… with some health benefits… Taco Bell is at 18 to start.. with free food.
Not sure if the free food is a benefit or not
Both climate controlled too!
And if it is, can I get some free toilet paper with that?
At least in my experience stick with the basic crunchy tacos or chicken soft tacos…when I’ve ventured out into the Burrito or Chalupa stuff all hell has broke loose…literally
Our former Union president did such a terrible job negotiating our previous 2 contracts; we ended up getting retro pay for our contracts being enforced a year after they expired. Sort of a Bonus if you will.
I believe the part time starting rate Will go up substantially, mostly because UPS has little choice.I’m not so confident 22.4 will be gone. It will be tweaked and new rules. And I do not believe it will be all Sean’s fault. In the last negotiations the rumor was the strike vote was embarrassingly low, and we all know the participation in the contract vote was pathetic. Most people complained about the 2/3 rule. Well it’s gone now. But what good would strike be if the majority of the people don’t care enough to vote? How long will the strike lines hold up? I was a delegate I voted to get rid of the 2/3 because that was the will of the people. I hope people are ready to put up or shut up, because I believe a strike or at least a very credible threat of a strike is what it will take to get rid of 22.4. Sean can only negotiate it , The members will have to fight for it.
22.4 are here to stay. Once the company gains a concession it is almost impossible to roll it back. What are you willing to give up? Good news is that you can blame it on all of the 22.4 who did not vote.
I don’t disagree 22.4 is most likely here to stay. I don’t even think any of the people in my building who are 22.4 even worked at UPS during the last contract vote lol. I doubt most people are willing to give up much of anything (and that includes a few weeks of pay on a strikeline). I can assure you TDU will blame Sean when the 22.4 article is still in the next contract. In my experience TDU is amazing at pointing out a flaw or problem. But they’re completely awful at solutions that will work. Name calling and grandstanding seem to be what they’re best at. I like Sean, I like his energy, I don’t know how long his relationship with TDU types will last.
I agree that that would be quite a victory, unfortunately some of those things were given up long before the last contract. The equal pay was given Up I believe in 1983 as we still have a few of those red circle part-time employees where I am. They make maybe $.10 less an hour then a regular package car driver. I don’t know if Sean and his team can get something like that back all at once.
That’s exactly what I Believe will happen the language will get cleaned up. Haven’t seen 22.4‘s go more than 18 months before they moved to RPCDs.where I am. And since you only have to go through one progression they really don’t lose that much money. We do have to keep pressure on the company to move them up as they get lazy and do not do it automatically. Unfortunately TDU will say Sean is a sellout with anything less than the removal of 22.4 language.
I hope it's not too late
I'll take that bet. OZ is TDUs boys. TDU will back O'Brien and blame Hoffa still. They will say that Hoffa screwed up so bad that O'Brien had no chance of changing it.
It'll last till he goes against them or they start to lose membership because they are not needed. Just my opinion.
