What'dyabringmetoday???
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Oh I see. Wasn't that what they said about kids back when you were a kid? Thank you for agreeing that the union allows UPS to do as it pleases.
The Hoffa era is over, and the Teamsters are ready to fight
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Nope.
The company will try and get away with anything they can, after sizing up the membership....
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Nah- they know that they can throw a box of doughnuts at the "elected leaders" and do as they please.
Trucker Clock
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So how many of the current lower seniority package car drivers do you think would vote yes on a contract that will force them into a Tue-Sat or Wed-Sun job.
Some may like the the Tue or Wed job, but I’ll bet you it is not the majority.
Yes, the Mon-Fri job will not completely disappear, but there won’t be too many of them left.
You’ll need 20 years or more in to get that job. I know, you’ll say you have to put in your time and earn that job.
The problem is that they have the job now. Most will not vote to purposefully eliminate their chances of keeping a Mon-Fri job.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
I think they'd gain a little more traction if it was Tu-Sa and Su-Th.
MostHelpNeeded
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Make it Sunday-Tuesday and Thursday-Saturday and we'll split Wednesday, or do every other and you might just get a yes from me.
Mattmac0912
Banned
Anyone who believes anything is gonna change must also believe the Easter bunny is coming in a month I have some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you
Thebrownblob
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Lots of things will change, The question is will it be enough change or the right kind of change to make people happy? My guess is absolutely not.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Too many guys would lose too much money.
If they can't get rid of the 22.4 jobs at least give them the same protections as an RPCD
Thebrownblob
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That sounds great and I agree with you but there will be nothing given it will be fought for.
Are people really ready to fight? We’ll see.
Majority wins this time
Even if we don't get the 50% turn out
Thebrownblob
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Once again as I have stated I voted to get rid of the 2/3 rule as one of many delegates. I did it with a little bit of apprehension but that was the will of the people. Many people were angry at the Hoffa administration for not renegotiating and or calling a strike. I do think the last contract could’ve been renegotiated as UPS sounded ready to come back to the table. I’m not certain they would’ve offered us much more. Hoffa used of provision That was legitimate in the IBT international constitution. It’s also quite possible the leader ship felt this membership could be broken by the company because of the poor showing in both the contract vote and the strike vote. This time it’s put up or shut up by US the members. August 2023 could be a long hot summer. I’m personally ready if necessary.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
In the Central Region Supplement we already had (and still have) sufficient language to accommodate weekend schedules and never needed the 22.4 classification, yet here we are.
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MostHelpNeeded
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I get that, and that would need to be worked out. We're not working 40 hours in only 3 days. While It is possible in 3.5 days, it then brings the overtime question. Overtime after 8? 10? 10?. I understand that even if we had a 40 hour pay guarantee, regardless of actual hours worked, It's the loss of overtime pay that hurts a lot of us.
Perhaps we wouldn't need to depend on overtime so much if raises not only kept up with inflation, but were actual raises? I don't think I'm alone in saying I haven't gotten a 'raise' since I hit top rate...many years ago. In all honesty, I feel like I'm making less than I was 15 years ago. To all that said $25/hr is unsustainable, to those that said $30, those that are saying $40...have we waken up yet? This company makes billions, year after year after year. We don't manufacture a product. We're not hiring geniuses to design, innovate, or create anything. This company and all of the people who run it and who are getting rich from it would not exist without us and or labor. $50/hr should be a starting point by contract time...As in $50 as soon as it's ratified. We should at least be keeping up with other union trades...
Yes one of those other Union trades make $50 an hour but they dion't have the benefits that we receive.
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