THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

newfie

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Watch Trump negotiate with 130 countries and call it a massive win by dropping % like Vietnam dropping 1% while no big changes with China
speculative hate is a total waster of time here. I understand you trump haters have to try to claim victory now since you believe trump will be successful in the long term but at this point its just nonsense chatter.

trump will either be successful or not . if he is not there will be plenty of opportunity for you to continue on with your obsessive hate filled rants here later.
 

newfie

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He’s not a nut job, he’s correct. Real ID is an intrusion on your constitutional rights and the first step towards your digital ID using your face. Who’s going to control all this information? None of this will keep you safe. It will only allow them to track and control you and your movements.


there are degree's of libertarinism his one of the purist that basically hates anything the government does. He should however have run as a libertarian so no one questions his motives. Instead he ran as a republican because thats what you have to do to get the job he has. As such he keeps stabbing the republicans in the back and grandstanding with some of his comments that insult the party and their objectives. i don't personally like leaders who pretend to be one thing and act like something else.

in the case of real ID I'm not sure how i feel about it. to me its the same as a passport which I also have.
 

newfie

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“It turns out that the solution to illegal immigration is instituting a nationwide system of digital identity, issued to every baby at birth and containing all your social, education, financial, medical, and employment information.

At least, according to the 40 or so Labour MPs who co-signed an open letter calling for such a system.

Of course, that digital ID could solve the immigration “problem” should come as no surprise. After all, it can solve every “problem”.


We are moving from demanding illegals prove who they are to demanding legal citizens, prove who they are by giving up all their privacy and rights. For safety, of course.
if you have gotten a drivers license , passport or airport ID for work you're already in that digital database. the only difference with the drivers license is the you go into a different database.

i understand your concern about a national database i just think that ship has sailed
 

Thebrownblob

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there are degree's of libertarinism his one of the purist that basically hates anything the government does. He should however have run as a libertarian so no one questions his motives. Instead he ran as a republican because thats what you have to do to get the job he has. As such he keeps stabbing the republicans in the back and grandstanding with some of his comments that insult the party and their objectives. i don't personally like leaders who pretend to be one thing and act like something else.

in the case of real ID I'm not sure how i feel about it. to me its the same as a passport which I also have.
He has libertarian leanings for sure. But I would call him more of a constitutionalist and a fiscal conservative. Trump is definitely not that. He’s a big spender and loves debt.

No one can explain to me how real ID keeps us safer. Because it doesn’t. It’s just an intrusion.
Having a passport is quite different than being told You can no longer fly domestically if you don’t have a certain ID. People who like to use the idea that you can use a car to drive across the country are the same people who would tell you the government should be able to limit you to a musket rifle instead of a modern rifle, because that’s what they had when constitution was written. People will essentially be locked out travel. And with biometrics very close by it will get more difficult. And your information will be at the whim whoever is in charge at the moment.

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”
 

Appvol

Banned
Tariffs good if Trump says they are on✔️

Tariffs aren't good if Trump says they're off ✔️

Do you understand how unhinged this all is?
No because they are just now starting to negotiate with countries and it’s more about China. There is video proof of Democrats in the past saying something needs to be about China but nobody was willing to do it. So the only person that doesn’t understand is you. You just want something to $itch about. It makes you feel better about your TDS
 

Appvol

Banned
He has libertarian leanings for sure. But I would call him more of a constitutionalist and a fiscal conservative. Trump is definitely not that. He’s a big spender and loves debt.

No one can explain to me how real ID keeps us safer. Because it doesn’t. It’s just an intrusion.
Having a passport is quite different than being told You can no longer fly domestically if you don’t have a certain ID. People who like to use the idea that you can use a car to drive across the country are the same people who would tell you the government should be able to limit you to a musket rifle instead of a modern rifle, because that’s what they had when constitution was written. People will essentially be locked out travel. And with biometrics very close by it will get more difficult. And your information will be at the whim whoever is in charge at the moment.

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”
I didn’t realize a lot of states already have a real ID.. Texas does and so do other states.
 

newfie

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“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”
i don't know how to stop it . My information is already in those databases . I guess i could have bought a cabin in the mountains and sold moonshine but in order to function and make a living i already had to get a drivers license, airport id. to travel i already had to get a passport .
 

Thebrownblob

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thats too simplistic . how do i stop it. do i stop driving and stop earning a living?
Well, the first thing we should’ve done is vote for more people like Thomas Massey. Going along to get along is getting us nowhere. A bad unconstitutional idea given to us by a Republican is still just as bad as a bad unconstitutional idea given to us by Democrat. I like politicians who are willing to call balls and strikes. Calling it grandstanding doesn’t really play with Thomas Massey as he doesn’t really care about moving up the ladder in politics.
 

Thebrownblob

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lol , trying to make a friend
Aren’t you the supervisor who cries about people stalking them?

I’ve posted that quote multiple times on this site in the past, nice try though, go post more pictures of trump to jerk off to
@Doublestandards has some good ideas, although the hate all things Trump Seems to weigh him down just a little bit imo.

I don’t hate all things Trump, just like I didn’t hate all things Biden.

I will say the two party system in our country has made it impossible to question either sides policies or else you’re labeled Some sort of extremist.
 

newfie

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Well, the first thing we should’ve done is vote for more people like Thomas Massey. Going along to get along is getting us nowhere. A bad unconstitutional idea given to us by a Republican is still just as bad as a bad unconstitutional idea given to us by Democrat. I like politicians who are willing to call balls and strikes. Calling it grandstanding doesn’t really play with Thomas Massey as he doesn’t really care about moving up the ladder in politics.
that ship has sailed and the problem with more thomas massies is you cant get them to agree on anything . they're great at being against things but they're not good at building a coalition and voting for anything they think is better. its like trying to herd a group of cats
 

Thebrownblob

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that ship has sailed and the problem with more thomas massies is you cant get them to agree on anything . they're great at being against things but they're not good at building a coalition and voting for anything they think is better. its like trying to herd a group of cats
That’s because most politicians have zero principles. They go to Washington and fall in line with their party because they want the party to support them in the next election with their money.
The original Congress did not get along ever they used to shoot each other and fight lol. They had real arguments about constitutionality.
 
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