THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[vantexan]

Barriers to free trade?

Which barriers are you referring to? Trump's proposed tariffs or the shutting out of our products in many markets?

 

[Box Ox]

Which barriers are you referring to? Trump's proposed tariffs or the shutting out of our products in many markets?

Tariffing the whole world based on made up percentages that other countries are tariffing us at.

 

[newfie]

It's time to go back to sticks and rocks now that the Trump tariffs are here.

i can always count on you to provide the proper level of histronics

 

[vantexan]

It's time to go back to sticks and rocks now that the Trump tariffs are here.

One thing is for certain, with our dependency on Wal-Mart and Amazon, and their dependency on China, things could get bad in a hurry.

 

[Box Ox]

One thing is for certain, with our dependency on Wal-Mart and Amazon, and their dependency on China, things could get bad in a hurry.

We shouldn't be in this situation but slamming the brakes on it probably won't go well.

 

[newfie]

One thing is for certain, with our dependency on Wal-Mart and Amazon, and their dependency on China, things could get bad in a hurry.

just have to figure out when enough is enough and if we are ever going to have the balls to challenge china and what they are doing to our country.

 

[vantexan]

Tariffing the whole world based on made up percentages that other countries are tariffing us at.

You can certainly look at it that way but protectionism is alive and well in much of the world and Trump is trying to break into those markets. Don't assume because you can buy a Toyota here that a Japanese man can buy a Chevy in Japan. No matter how you look at it the middle class in the U.S. in the last 40 years has shrunk significantly while our national debt has increased exponentially trying to keep a large part of our population afloat. No other president has tried to tackle this. Maybe there's a better way to do it but if so why hasn't it been done?

 

[newfie]

You can certainly look at it that way but protectionism is alive and well in much of the world and Trump is trying to break into those markets. Don't assume because you can buy a Toyota here that a Japanese man can buy a Chevy in Japan. No matter how you look at it the middle class in the U.S. in the last 40 years has shrunk significantly while our national debt has increased exponentially trying to keep a large part of our population afloat. No other president has tried to tackle this. Maybe there's a better way to do it but if so why hasn't it been done?

japan might not buy SUV's they like smaller vehicles

 

[vantexan]

japan might not buy SUV's they like smaller vehicles

But our American companies can't even build factories in Japan to make them small cars. We are shut out on major industries in Japan, the EU, and China. Thus the trade imbalances.

 

[rickyb]

What’s the suicide rate…
In blue states???

Worst states for suicide

Stats of the State - Suicide Mortality

www.cdc.gov

 

[Gotta Go]

Next Day…
Wait for the media talking points…
https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917666514569941218

 

[newfie]

But our American companies can't even build factories in Japan to make them small cars. We are shut out on major industries in Japan, the EU, and China. Thus the trade imbalances.

I'm not arguing that point , I'm just saying they wont buy large vehicles we would have to sell smaller ones there if they did open the market to us

 

[newfie]

Worst states for suicide

Stats of the State - Suicide Mortality

www.cdc.gov

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[Next Day Err]

A lot of what we have is designed here and made elsewhere. We do build cars and planes but a lot of the components are made elsewhere.

I don’t see a problem. Neither do consumers.

 

[Box Ox]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/01/trump-tariffs-recession-chamber-of-commerce.html

U.S. Chamber of Commerce asks Trump for tariff exclusions to ‘stave off a recession’​

5/1/25

"The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is urging the Trump administration to immediately implement a “tariff exclusion process” in order to keep the U.S. economy from falling into a recession and inflicting “irreparable harm” on small businesses.

In a letter first obtained by CNBC, the massive business lobbying group asked key Trump trade officials to automatically lift tariffs on all small business importers and on all products that “cannot be produced in the U.S.” or are not domestically available."

 

[vantexan]

I don’t see a problem. Neither do consumers.

Cities where factories have shut down because they couldn't compete with 3rd world labor costs certainly see a problem.