THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[newfie]

Pathetic.

i know but i hold out hope for you none the less

 

[vantexan]

You have no problem with sending American citizens to foreign prisons?

Democrats all over the country had no problem releasing the arrested charged with felonies without bail. And quite often the just released went out and committed more crime. Even heinous felonies. So spare us the concern for those actually convicted of heinous crimes. I looked it up. El Salvador once had the world's highest murder rate. Now is less than a third of the U.S. We could learn a lot from their methods.

 

[Babagounj]

Let's adjust the immigration laws back to before 1964.
Where every incoming migrant had to have a sponsor, who would provide for them and make sure they were never a burden to the American People.

 

[Doublestandards]

Criminal from El Salvador Voted for Joe Biden
By Jonathan Gregory| April 14, 2025
WASHINGTON, D.C. - A Salvadoran national with ties to the MS-13 gang was deported last week after U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) confirmed he had been living in the United States illegally and was wanted in El Salvador for murder and kidnapping. Kilmar Abrego Garcia, twenty-nine, had been residing in Maryland under a false identity when federal agents arrested him during a gang task force operation.
Garcia’s record raised further alarm when investigators discovered he had fraudulently registered to vote in the 2020 U.S. presidential election and cast a ballot in favor of Joe Biden. Despite not being a U.S. citizen, voter registration records confirmed his name was listed in the Maryland voter database, prompting renewed scrutiny of election security in the state. “This individual should never have been here, let alone voting in a federal election,” said one ICE official.
Some Democratic lawmakers are lobbying for Garcia’s release from El Salvador. Sources within the Department of Homeland Security claim internal discussions took place, with pressure to halt Garcia’s removal based on claims that he had “turned a corner” and was no longer a threat. Meanwhile, several major media outlets began publishing human-interest stories framing Garcia as a “reformed immigrant,” with little mention of his gang ties or violent history.
The media coverage and political maneuvering are attempts to distract from the national security concerns raised by the case. “We’re talking about a known MS-13 member, charged with murder, who illegally voted in our elections,” said a senior federal law enforcement source. “If that doesn’t raise red flags about immigration enforcement and election integrity, I don’t know what will.” Garcia is currently being held in El Salvador, where he awaits trial for multiple violent crimes. It's clear Democrats are trying to destroy our country, and Donald Trump is on the right side of history.

Hey @newfie why don’t you want to post the source where you got this?

 

[Doublestandards]

Democrats all over the country had no problem releasing the arrested charged with felonies without bail. And quite often the just released went out and committed more crime. Even heinous felonies. So spare us the concern for those actually convicted of heinous crimes. I looked it up. El Salvador once had the world's highest murder rate. Now is less than a third of the U.S. We could learn a lot from their methods.

You are never capable of addressing a topic without bringing up democrats in some unrelated point

“Democrats supported releasing people from jail so it’s okay to send American citizens to foreign prisons!”

Come on man

 

[vantexan]

You are never capable of addressing a topic without bringing up democrats in some unrelated point

“Democrats supported releasing people from jail so it’s okay to send American citizens to foreign prisons!”

Come on man

And you want to rag on Republicans while ignoring the many negative things done by Democrats. What exactly are Republicans trying to do? Streamline government while eliminating corruption. How is that bad? You are picking apart and twisting everything they do while ignoring the reasons we have these problems. Guess what? In your zeal to get Democrats back in power there are going to be Republicans pointing out why enough voters turned away from Democrats to begin with. It sure as hell wasn't Republican lies.

 

[vantexan]

You are never capable of addressing a topic without bringing up democrats in some unrelated point

“Democrats supported releasing people from jail so it’s okay to send American citizens to foreign prisons!”

Come on man

P.S. Don't quote what I didn't say. Just rankles me that you ignore the many horrific acts committed by MS-13 gang members to defend this guy because you Democrats think it's a winning strategy against Republicans. Every time we turn around an illegal is either murdering, raping, or killing someone on the road driving drunk. This particular guy put himself in the crosshairs by being associated, at least at one time, with one of the most savage gangs on Earth. If you play you pay.

 

[Doublestandards]

And you want to rag on Republicans while ignoring the many negative things done by Democrats. What exactly are Republicans trying to do? Streamline government while eliminating corruption. How is that bad? You are picking apart and twisting everything they do while ignoring the reasons we have these problems. Guess what? In your zeal to get Democrats back in power there are going to be Republicans pointing out why enough voters turned away from Democrats to begin with. It sure as hell wasn't Republican lies.

I’ve criticized democrats plenty. You are not able to criticize republicans. You can’t address what should be a very easy thing to be against, sending American citizens to a foreign prisons.

We are taking about the president actively saying he is in favor of sending Americans to a foreign prison, and you don’t even have the guts speak out against it

 

[vantexan]

I’ve criticized democrats plenty. You are not able to criticize republicans. You can’t address what should be a very easy thing to be against, sending American citizens to a foreign prisons.

We are taking about the president actively saying he is in favor of sending Americans to a foreign prison, and you don’t even have the guts speak out against it

If they're the worst of the worst serving life sentences then what difference does it make where they're serving their sentences?

 

[Doublestandards]

If they're the worst of the worst serving life sentences then what difference does it make where they're serving their sentences?

Who decides who gets to be sent?

This is pathetic. Bunch of cowards. Some of yall are just cuckolds to trump.

What’s scary is I never imagined some of you would be this pathetic, and what’s scarier is now I wonder how low you would be willing to stoop before you spoke up, if you even have the courage or dignity to ever do so

 

[vantexan]

Who decides who gets to be sent?

This is pathetic. Bunch of cowards. Some of yall are just cuckolds to trump.

What’s scary is I never imagined some of you would be this pathetic, and what’s scarier is now I wonder how low you would be willing to stoop before you spoke up, if you even have the courage or dignity to ever do so

If they're in prison for the rest of their life then what does it matter where they are held? If El Salvador can watch them a lot cheaper than we can in the States then it's a good thing in my book. We're talking Federal prisoners. Each state would have to decide what to do with their lifers. Amazing that y'all can snuff out an innocent baby's life with abortion but a person who did something really terrible to get life in prison is who you fret over.

 

[vantexan]

Who decides who gets to be sent?

Talking about sentencing them to serve their time automatically in the overseas prison if they are convicted of certain crimes.

 

[Doublestandards]

If they're in prison for the rest of their life then what does it matter where they are held? If El Salvador can watch them a lot cheaper than we can in the States then it's a good thing in my book. We're talking Federal prisoners. Each state would have to decide what to do with their lifers. Amazing that y'all can snuff out an innocent baby's life with abortion but a person who did something really terrible to get life in prison is who you fret over.

Talking about sentencing them to serve their time automatically in the overseas prison if they are convicted of certain crimes.

And who decides what crimes are worthy?

And what if that person is later found to be innocent? And now they’re in a foreign prison and can’t be returned, like what is happening now

Im learning that apparently this maga movement isn’t conservatism, it’s regression. Our country still had the honor and wisdom to include “no cruel or unusual punishment” for prisoners in the 1700s, but apparently the maga crowd has little to no concern about the president actively saying he would like to send Americans to foreign prisons. And the same country who is currently ignoring American courts requests.

 

[vantexan]

And who decides what crimes are worthy?

And what if that person is later found to be innocent? And now they’re in a foreign prison and can’t be returned, like what is happening now

Im learning that apparently this maga movement isn’t conservatism, it’s regression. Our country still had the honor and wisdom to include “no cruel or unusual punishment” for prisoners in the 1700s, but apparently the maga crowd has little to no concern about the president actively saying he would like to send Americans to foreign prisons. And the same country who is currently ignoring American courts requests.

Seriously? If a guy gets sentenced to life without parole then he goes. What is so hard about this that you have to call everyone names over it?

If someone does something so heinous that they get life without parole why would you be so concerned about their rights? What about the rights of their victims? You soft on crime guys never seem to consider the victims and their families. If someone murders somebody and the jury decides on life without parole then why should we pay U.S. costs to warehouse him? And then there's the deterrence value. Might not stop some from murdering, but every life saved because of fear of ending up in an El Salvador prison would be worth it.

 

[Next Day Err]

You are never capable of addressing a topic without bringing up democrats in some unrelated point

“Democrats supported releasing people from jail so it’s okay to send American citizens to foreign prisons!”

Come on man

Whataboutism in the extreme. Literally they can never address an issue for what it is. Journalists and judges could burn in Salvadoran gulag ovens and they’d change the subject to democrats.

 

[vantexan]

Whataboutism in the extreme. Literally they can never address an issue for what it is. Journalists and judges could burn in Salvadoran gulag ovens and they’d change the subject to democrats.

Blah blah blah. Nobody is burning in ovens.

 

[DELACROIX]

And who decides what crimes are worthy?

And what if that person is later found to be innocent? And now they’re in a foreign prison and can’t be returned, like what is happening now

Im learning that apparently this maga movement isn’t conservatism, it’s regression. Our country still had the honor and wisdom to include “no cruel or unusual punishment” for prisoners in the 1700s, but apparently the maga crowd has little to no concern about the president actively saying he would like to send Americans to foreign prisons. And the same country who is currently ignoring American courts requests.

I go treated worst in basic training back in the 70's...besides that there is big money in incarcerations, maybe DOGE should be looking into our own prisons. It sure would be an incentive, especially if they lower the age on minors...let's say 12 years old..

 

[Appvol]

Hey @newfie why don’t you want to post the source where you got this?

I’m pretty sure it says who wrote it lol.

 

[Next Day Err]

Blah blah blah. Nobody is burning in ovens.

A year in that hell (minimum) and you’d probably wish for death.

Due process is dying in Trump’s America and you don’t care in the least. Figures.

 

[Appvol]

I’ve criticized democrats plenty. You are not able to criticize republicans. You can’t address what should be a very easy thing to be against, sending American citizens to a foreign prisons.

We are taking about the president actively saying he is in favor of sending Americans to a foreign prison, and you don’t even have the guts speak out against it

If an American citizen killed your wife and family you would be against sending them to a prison in a foreign country. It would depend on the crime.