THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

You do need to put yourself in others shoes sometimes. The reason Trump won is the middle ground, reasonable Americans felt that the Democrats leadership was taking them to a place they didn’t want to see the country go. Just like you and I feel about Trump leadership. They felt this was better. The real key here is understanding that they felt they had no choice. Ask yourself this, did you really love the idea of voting Democrat in the last presidential election or just hated the idea of Trump? Think about it. If you don’t like Trump that’s fine, but we do need a viable alternative instead of each side constantly moving the needle in increasingly opposite directions.
Misogyny is real as well. It was a 1-2-3 punch with inflation-racism-misogyny.

How many times did I hear "I don't know if I want to vote for a woman really"

Welp. Finding out the consequences of that being your criteria.
 

Box Ox

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Leftist insanity and a bad candidate are a bad combo if you don’t want Trump to be elected.
Right wing propaganda and a Hollywood unapologetic schoolyard bully is fun for a lot of very challenged people. But the fun won’t last as his incompetency leads to suffering as the farming community is finding out quickly, again.

We have a propaganda problem that’s so severe that people are willing to risk it all on a dimbass rather than give the benefit of the doubt to marginalized people and just live and let live.

Ah well. Like I said. We’re finding out.

Sounds like you’re still solidly in the “It wasn’t our insane leftist product, it was our messaging that was the problem” camp.
 

MyTripisCut

Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
I have another question. Why the push for manufacturing jobs in the US? How do we feel this is such a necessity. If unemployment is not at an unreasonable level, and there are jobs in other sectors, mainly service? Why are we flipping the world upside down over this?




Who will work in these factories?
 

Thebrownblob

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Mysogyny is real as well. It was a 1-2-3 punch with inflation-racism-misogyny.

How many times did I hear "I don't know if I want to vote for a woman really"

Welp. Finding out the consequences of that being your criteria.
I never heard it. Again, people like you are the problem. She had no business being the candidate either. Had the Democratic Party not lied to their selves and everyone else for many years there could’ve been a viable candidate. Instead, they pretended, concealed and flat out, lied and had to panic after became evident that they were exposed. That’s not a way to run a country or a campaign. If Democrat party is like you and learned nothing they are in for a lot of problems.
 
I never heard it. Again, people like you are the problem. She had no business being the candidate either. Had the Democratic Party not lied to their selves and everyone else for many years there could’ve been a viable candidate. Instead, they pretended, concealed and flat out, lied and had to panic after became evident that they were exposed. That’s not a way to run a country or a campaign. If Democrat party is like you learn nothing they are in for a lot of problems.
What's the problem? Trump's president. Is there anything to defend that you'd like to try to defend?
 
Why are we flipping the world upside down over this?
The president came of age where white men had unquestioned supremacy in society and he thinks it's a good idea to destroy the current world order and economic system to try to roll us back to that period in history.

But he seems to be getting cold feet. Money talks. We're all learning that finance itself is a check on one man's whims.
 

MyTripisCut

Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
Love him or hate him Gavin Newsom is attempting to redefine himself and the Democratic Party. Thankfully, he is not listening to people like @Next Day Err because if he were, he would be doomed to failure.
I sometimes get a dumb idea that a Teamsters Slate should run for government. Look how most Teamster locals run their business end. Elected, bills paid and accounted for, taking care of their members and fixing their problems logically and reasonably. Am I nuts?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I sometimes get a dumb idea that a Teamsters Slate should run for government. Look how most Teamster locals run their business end. Elected, bills paid and accounted for, taking care of their members and fixing their problems logically and reasonably. Am I nuts?
It’s amazing what can be accomplished when you actually have to listen to your constituents And balance your checkbook every month.
 
We rewarded somebody with unfathomable amounts of power that's currently testing his own theory of that unchecked power who insisted, in front of millions of Americans, that Haitians were eating dogs and eating cats in Ohio.

Racism won hard.
 

MyTripisCut

Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
It’s amazing what can be accomplished when you actually have to listen to your constituents And balance your checkbook every month.
Maybe it’s also where our leadership comes from, and doesn’t forget what it’s like to grind day to day. The political landscape is definitely lacking with celebrities, silver spoons, and flash in the pan candidates.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
I have another question. Why the push for manufacturing jobs in the US? How do we feel this is such a necessity. If unemployment is not at an unreasonable level, and there are jobs in other sectors, mainly service? Why are we flipping the world upside down over this?




Who will work in these factories?

I think nostalgia for our post-war boom era has a lot to do with it. But the world of course isn’t what it was then. There isn’t widespread destruction in Europe and Asia. And people here aren’t going to earn solid middle class incomes doing the jobs China would rather leave behind. They’re looking to move toward the more service-based kind of economy that we’ve got now.
 

MyTripisCut

Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
I think nostalgia for our post-war boom era has a lot to do with it. But the world of course isn’t what it was then. There isn’t widespread destruction in Europe and Asia. And people here aren’t going to earn solid middle class incomes doing the jobs China would rather leave behind. They’re looking to move toward the more service-based kind of economy that we’ve got now.
Did a little reading lately and typically richer nations trend in this direction. Manufacturing has a lot of variables, including automation and supply and demand. Agriculture for instance, has way less jobs as technology evolves, but the proof is in the pudding, and the US still cranks out tons of food. 🤷‍♂️
 
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