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The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
Again, looking for a spending cap.... I don't see it.

Geez man...

"when the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 took effect. Commonly known as the McCain-Feingold Act, for its sponsors in the Senate (John McCain, a Republican from Arizona, and Russ Feingold, a Democrat from Wisconsin), the law bans what had become a key source of financing for both parties: federal "soft money," or donations to a political party for general "party-building" activities such as get-out-the-vote efforts. Because such contributions were in theory not used to support specific federal candidates, they could be made in unlimited amounts, and their use was only loosely regulated by the Federal Election Commission. Under the provisions of McCain-Feingold all donations to national candidates or parties must come in the form of "hard money," which is subject to annual contribution limits and other strict regulations. (State parties are still allowed to accept soft money in accordance with individual state laws. So are certain interest and issue-advocacy groups that have no official connection to a party.)"

in other words..

NO SUPERPACS.

TOS.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Then you didnt READ it clearly or thoroughly.

McCain/Feingold LIMITED donations, ELIMINATED foreign donors and CAPPED business and private donors.

There were no Sheldon Adelsons or other multi billionaires donating tens of millions of dollars.

Today, what you are seeing is the product of BAD republican ideology. Citizens United wiped out our political system and cash is now king.

TOS.

cash has always been king, leftist forces now organize to push their leftist agenda as George Cloonery demonstrated with his Hillary fund raising.
 

1989

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Geez man...

"when the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 took effect. Commonly known as the McCain-Feingold Act, for its sponsors in the Senate (John McCain, a Republican from Arizona, and Russ Feingold, a Democrat from Wisconsin), the law bans what had become a key source of financing for both parties: federal "soft money," or donations to a political party for general "party-building" activities such as get-out-the-vote efforts. Because such contributions were in theory not used to support specific federal candidates, they could be made in unlimited amounts, and their use was only loosely regulated by the Federal Election Commission. Under the provisions of McCain-Feingold all donations to national candidates or parties must come in the form of "hard money," which is subject to annual contribution limits and other strict regulations. (State parties are still allowed to accept soft money in accordance with individual state laws. So are certain interest and issue-advocacy groups that have no official connection to a party.)"

in other words..

NO SUPERPACS.

TOS.
You said that spending limits and spending accountability have been done. Why are you talking about donations?
 

1989

Well-Known Member
You cant spend what you dont have.

TOS.
So why are you saying that there was a spending cap and accountability of those monies spent? Then going off on a tangent about how republicans didn't like it? It never was law. All your responses were lies. Or lack of reading comprehension.
 

The Other Side

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Hillary's foreign policy has been an actual disaster but how do you convince the people?

Hillarys foreign policy??

Did you forget how we got into the middle east already?

Somebody has to pick up the pieces and try to regain control over the region once we de stablized it.

TOS.
 

The Other Side

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So why are you saying that there was a spending cap and accountability of those monies spent? Then going off on a tangent about how republicans didn't like it? It never was law. All your responses were lies. Or lack of reading comprehension.

OMG man, are you this dense?

WHY DO YOU THINK THE REPUBLICANS NEEDED CITIZENS UNITED if there were no spending limits or donation limits?

TOS.
 

1989

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OMG man, are you this dense?

WHY DO YOU THINK THE REPUBLICANS NEEDED CITIZENS UNITED if there were no spending limits or donation limits?

TOS.
Here comes the name calling. Again, what was the spending limit you speak of? I asked you that 4-5 posts ago. I'm just asking for facts. Not the Mumbo jumbo of you opinion. You never talk facts.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Here comes the name calling. Again, what was the spending limit you speak of? I asked you that 4-5 posts ago. I'm just asking for facts. Not the Mumbo jumbo of you opinion. You never talk facts.
Bad move , every time someone asks TOS for facts he disappears for a while and his alter egos show up .
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Hillarys foreign policy??

Did you forget how we got into the middle east already?

Somebody has to pick up the pieces and try to regain control over the region once we de stablized it.

TOS.
Did she make things better in any way?

When Bush left office, the middle east wasn't on fire like it is now.

If Hillary gets elected, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the rest of the stable governments will fall.

Just like Syria, Libya, and Yemen.

Hillary is a disaster that we can't let happen here.
 

Sportello

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When Bush left office, the middle east wasn't on fire like it is now.
:bsbullf:

Jeb Bush is wrong; Iraq was not stable before Obama

President Obama was sworn into office on Jan. 20, 2009. The year prior, Iraq and Afghanistan witnessed continued violence, bloodshed and political chaos. In the case of Iraq, George W. Bush's last year in office didn't see "stability" in that country, as stated recently by his brother, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R). Unlike the myth that many Republicans are perpetuating in 2015, the surge did not "generally pacify" Iraq, Bush did not leave a "winning war," and Iraq didn't "deteriorate" (such as George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove stated after refusing to apologize to a veteran) because American troops left the country.

From 2005 until the end of 2008, when adding up all the terrorist attacks compiled by the U.S. Department of State's Country Reports on Terrorism 2009, there were a total of 19,535 terrorist attacks in Iraq. As for people "killed, injured, or kidnapped" from these 19,535 terrorist attacks, the State Department lists a total of 122,596 Iraqis. Regarding Iraq's human rights assessment in 2008, the State Department explained that "Insurgent and extremist violence, coupled with weak government performance in upholding the rule of law, resulted in widespread and severe human rights abuses." One recent study cites a figure of 500,000 Iraqis who have died from terrorism, sectarian violence and other aspects of the Iraq War.
The terror associated with Jeb Bush's definition of "stability" in Iraq and the latest conservative whitewashing of the Iraq War's bloody history is staggering. The U.S. Department of State records that in 2008 alone, 3,256 terrorist attacks occurred in Iraq. As far as Bush "winning" the war, 19,077 people were "killed, kidnapped, or injured as a result of terrorism" in Iraq during George W. Bush's last year in office. Prior to 2008, the U.S. Department of State cites a total of 12,841 terrorist attacks in Iraq from 2006 to 2007, resulting in the death of 82,891 Iraqis. Apparently, Jeb Bush and others never read the State Department's Country Reports on Terrorism 2009, which states that "Since 2005 [until 2009], Iraq continues to be the single country with the most attacks and fatalities due to terrorism."

Will any Republican candidate for president ever explain how 3,256 terrorist attacks in Iraq during 2008, and 12,841 terrorist attacks in Iraq during the 2006 to 2007 period, could ever mean "stability," "winning," or a country that Obama could have "lost?"

As for Iraq’s civilian "deaths from violence" in 2008, which includes terrorism but also addresses the issue of sectarian violence, the Iraq Body Count lists a death toll of 10,271 Iraqis. In terms of Jeb Bush's view of progress, or the impact of the surge, 26,036 Iraqis died in 2007 and 29,439 Iraqis died in 2006. Therefore, in the context of the 55,475 Iraqis who died as a result of violence in Iraq during the two years before 2008, Republicans might indeed be able to claim a morbid view of progress in George W. Bush's last year in office.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
When Bush left office, the middle east wasn't on fire like it is now.
LOL.
If Hillary gets elected, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the rest of the stable governments will fall.
So 15 of the 19 hijackers responsible for the 9/11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, and your concern about Hillary is that her presidency would be bad for them.... wtf?

We invade a country that had nothing to do with the attacks, and 15 years later the only justice victims get is permission to sue the country that was actually responsible.....
Saudi Arabia: Senate Passes Bill on 9/11 Attacks

Funny that I constantly hear rambling on all about Hillary releasing emails and a bunch of other non-issue garbage, but have yet to hear them demand to make public the 28 missing pages of the 9/11 commission report..... typical political hypocrisy.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
LOL.

So 15 of the 19 hijackers responsible for the 9/11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, and your concern about Hillary is that her presidency would be bad for them.... wtf?

We invade a country that had nothing to do with the attacks, and 15 years later the only justice victims get is permission to sue the country that was actually responsible.....
Saudi Arabia: Senate Passes Bill on 9/11 Attacks

Funny that I constantly hear rambling on all about Hillary releasing emails and a bunch of other non-issue garbage, but have yet to hear them demand to make public the 28 missing pages of the 9/11 commission report..... typical political hypocrisy.
The Saudi are not our enemy.

They are not our friends either.

Bigger fish to fry first.

First we destroy ISIS.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
The Saudi are not our enemy.

They are not our friends either.

Bigger fish to fry first.

First we destroy ISIS.
So Saudi Arabia, the country responsible for financing the 9/11 attacks on our soil is not our enemy,
but the terror organization that threatens Saudi Arabia is our enemy......

Why do you care more about Saudi Arabia than you do your own country?
Screw em, let them handle their own mess. You're a typical neoconservative, more interested in what's going on in other countries than you are your own.
 
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