TSP dies. Jobs and route cuts start

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Retired??? Please take me to this wonderful place. Please…

its NICE. I get up when i want to,do what i want to all day,and have time to actually make plans

 

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I did. That doesn't make it ok. It just makes me more mad. You should be too.

anyone thats been employed longer than 10 minutes knows anything the company says they will do to make the job easier is BS. why get mad?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

It's just not my pension it's also your future pension

Um... The pension will do better when they are forced to hire more full time drivers. Why do you want to hurt the pension?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Why the job is the same as it's always been. UPS talks a big game but my check still cashes every week.

Tell that to the guys being forced to work 6 days indefinitely. Time for that to stop.

 

[evilleace]

Tell that to the guys being forced to work 6 days indefinitely. Time for that to stop.

Your right it is. But TSP had nothing to do with forced 6 days. Also its not everywhere guys are forced 6 days. Hasn't happened once here we have enough 22.3 to fill the routes. They are then working the sorts several days a week to get hours so more drivers isn't the answer either.

 

[DOK]

Who said tsp was abandoned? Did I miss the memo?

 

[evilleace]

Who said tsp was abandoned? Did I miss the memo?

It never even started here.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Your right it is. But TSP had nothing to do with forced 6 days. Also its not everywhere guys are forced 6 days. Hasn't happened once here we have enough 22.3 to fill the routes. They are then working the sorts several days a week to get hours so more drivers isn't the answer either.

I was responding to you saying the job is what it's always been. I pointed out how clearly wrong that statement was, then you come back with an irrelevant statement about 6 days not being TSP's fault. Let's try to stay focused and not jump all over the place.

 

[evilleace]

I was responding to you saying the job is what it's always been. I pointed out how clearly wrong that statement was, then you come back with an irrelevant statement about 6 days not being TSP's fault. Let's try to stay focused and not jump all over the place.

I am focused your upset about TSP being stopped. Which means the job didn't change its the same as it was. You only brought up 6th punch the one time and I agreed that needs to stop. Who's jumping?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I am focused your upset about TSP being stopped.

Talking to you is eerily similar to talking to my ORS. Show me where I said that. That was your misapprehension from the start. I corrected you, but you persist. I will try one more time to see if I can help you understand.

TSP never started for my center. I'm not happy that the company thinks they own our lives as long as they pay for it. 9.5 protection is not good enough, the people who think it is are in a vert small minority. The lies about TSP merely pushed me over the edge, I knew they were lying, and that felt like they were rubbing my face in the fact that they can and will work us however long they want.

Which means the job didn't change its the same as it was. You only brought up 6th punch the one time and I agreed that needs to stop. Who's jumping?

The job did change. I explained that, and you tried to make it about TSP for some reason. The company thinks they can work us like it's peak, all year round. That's the point. I am suggesting a way to stop it. If you are happy with the current set up great. Don't feel like you need to tell me why I shouldn't ask for better control over our hours.

 

[DriverNerd]

TSP lasted about a week and a half here. I was honestly surprised they even tried.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Um... The pension will do better when they are forced to hire more full time drivers. Why do you want to hurt the pension?

They are going to hire any extra drivers.
Better not bigger....

 

[zubenelgenubi]

They are going to hire any extra drivers.
Better not bigger....

Don't worry, we'll have a PT weekend driver group because 70% of the drivers don't want to work messed up schedules.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Don't worry, we'll have a PT weekend driver group because 70% of the drivers don't want to work messed up schedules.

That won't get my vote in the contract

 

[UnionStrong]

That won't get my vote in the contract

That would be BS.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

That would be BS.

Think about this, those guys striking in 97, if they were told, ok, more full time jobs, we're going 7 days a week, but only 25% of you get to stay on a M-friend shift. Everyone else is getting at least one weekend day, on some may get split days off. What do you think they would have done?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That would be BS.

It's not going to happen

 

[MECH-lift]

We won't forget this when it comes to the strike authorization vote.

amazing how many drivers don’t find this insulting …my planned day with requested hours was about 130 stops. The week after they put 170 stops on my route so I just sent 22:00 ETA..

supervisor: grrrr @MECH-lift why did you work so late!!!!

@MECH-lift: I only asked for 8 hours


GRRRR SUPERVISOR STORMS OFF GRRRRR

 

[UnionStrong]

Think about this, those guys striking in 97, if they were told, ok, more full time jobs, we're going 7 days a week, but only 25% of you get to stay on a M-friend shift. Everyone else is getting at least one weekend day, on some may get split days off. What do you think they would have done?

We would have said no way in 97.

 

[MECH-lift]

I did. That doesn't make it ok. It just makes me more mad. You should be too.

Anything over my requested hours/stops the anchor drops..

UPS WORKS FOR ME