They would probably pay a little more.
Two tier wage system, who does it affect?
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KOG72
I’m full of it
Not me
You don't do your job right for $34 an hour
KOG72
I’m full of it
I show up
WDFD
KOG72
I’m full of it
Sometimes........I left that part out.
I can see that. That makes it easier to implement driverless package cars. If/when that happens, UPS will claim that drivers are basically just helpers and use that as an excuse to only pay them helper wages.
Anything to eliminate a good paying job
Browndriver5
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I never understood the concept of making everyone poor. If everyone's poor they cant buy your product lol
They don't care.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The two tiered wage system will be a reality in the near future.
I don't know what the cut off will be as to who would be affected by this.
in the noam chomsky documentary requiem for the american dream they talk about this. i cant remember but part of it is companies are global and highly financialized
upschuck
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If this happens, only the new drivers, after contract date would be affected, like when they started shafting the PTers
Brisket
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I don't know about you, but that would scare the living crap outta me if I saw a driverless package car anywhere near me.... Or worse yet tractor trailer ... Not knowing if the sensors would operate correctly to make that thing stop and NOT hit anyone...
I don't have too much faith in the union, but I don't think they'll let UPS force that on us either. Especially not if UPS is going to try and make us pay more for our benefits. There's no doubt that UPS wants both of these things, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna get them.
I think changing the progression from 4 to 5 or 6 years is a lot more likely. I don't see a two tiered wage system happening in the next contract. Maybe the one after that.
Yeah, but that seems to be the way things are heading now. Self-driving technology is advancing at a pace that I don't think anyone in the general public expected. Certainly faster than I expected. It's obvious that companies who currently employ drivers will eventually try to automate their fleets...and in cases where humans are still necessary to accomplish part of the job, they'll just get paid smaller wages.
542thruNthru
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I think if a two-tier pay scale is purposed you'll see a HUGE increase in voters.
Every single person that is hoping to one day go full time driver will vote no. The only people I see voting yes on a two-tier pay scale are selfish drivers.
I would never vote yes no matter what they gave me.
Every single person that is hoping to one day go full time driver will vote no. The only people I see voting yes on a two-tier pay scale are selfish drivers.
I would never vote yes no matter what they gave me.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...and you wonder why people think that we are overpaid with a false sense of entitlement...
542thruNthru
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Don't think I have ever wondered that. Please show me where I have. Also I didn't mean every contract. Only on a two-tier pay scale contract.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I would never vote yes no matter what they gave me.
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
542thruNthru
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Because I don't feel someone doing the same job as me should make less than me.
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