Ukraine Conducts "Military Exercise" in Russia

vantexan

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Think about it this way; remember when the Obama administration was bombing Syria into hell? Talking about CIA programs that cost half a billion to fund “moderate Syrian rebels?!” Then Russia stepped in and said you’re not going to do to Syria what you did to Iraq. Obama winced in pain and the plot to oust Bashar Assad went away. Liberal pundits cried in their soy milk. And just like that all was forgotten.
We were still in Syria at the start of Trump's term and U.S. forces killed about 500 Russian mercenaries. We didn't come to the edge of nuclear war over it. Ukraine is a very different scenario. Putin is serious enough about not allowing Ukraine into NATO that he's threatening using nukes. Whether that extends to ICBM's remains to be seen but if he uses tactical nukes in Ukraine we'll see whether Biden is serious or will he do a version of Obama's red line in Syria. Putin feared Trump. Nothing he's doing says he fears Biden.
 

vantexan

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Okay.
Glad you've caught on to the thing I've been saying for months.

The problem is there's a lot of really stupid leftists who call you a "putinist" if you speak in favor of peace and compromise.

And the stupid leftists are in charge.
I haven't changed my stance. I'm just tired of listening to Putin apologists justify his actions in Ukraine. Despicable stuff. If governments want to duke it out with their troops that's one thing. Killing women and children and have people claim it was really the Ukrainians doing it to make the Russians look bad is disgusting. Or act like they had it coming.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
Never said he's a boy scout. And it certainly looks like we're getting into another regime change war that will blow up in our faces. And this time possibly end life as we know it. The Ukrainians have captured more Russian equipment than the weaponry we've supplied them. It may be time for us to pull back and let them fight on their own. Give some humanitarian aid if needed, like shelters in refugee camps, that sort of thing. I'm only favoring Ukraine over Russia because it was the Russians who invaded and slaughtered civilians. Both countries are corrupt. Both have seriously bad systemic issues. The question at this point is will Russia resort to tactical nukes? That bombed bridge is putting a huge dent in Russian logistics. They're going to be weeks instead of a day in getting supplies and troops into the theater. That may be the window the Ukrainians need to finish off the troops currently in country. And that puts Putin on the brink of doing something incredibly dangerous for all of us.
We aren't trying to change ukraines leadership .
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
We were still in Syria at the start of Trump's term and U.S. forces killed about 500 Russian mercenaries. We didn't come to the edge of nuclear war over it. Ukraine is a very different scenario. Putin is serious enough about not allowing Ukraine into NATO that he's threatening using nukes. Whether that extends to ICBM's remains to be seen but if he uses tactical nukes in Ukraine we'll see whether Biden is serious or will he do a version of Obama's red line in Syria. Putin feared Trump. Nothing he's doing says he fears Biden.
Wait, thats why you think Russia is in Ukraine?
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
We were still in Syria at the start of Trump's term and U.S. forces killed about 500 Russian mercenaries. We didn't come to the edge of nuclear war over it. Ukraine is a very different scenario. Putin is serious enough about not allowing Ukraine into NATO that he's threatening using nukes. Whether that extends to ICBM's remains to be seen but if he uses tactical nukes in Ukraine we'll see whether Biden is serious or will he do a version of Obama's red line in Syria. Putin feared Trump. Nothing he's doing says he fears Biden.
This is why Russia is in Ukraine..

 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
This is why Russia is in Ukraine..

No, it isn't. But it surely didn't help the U.S. image.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
And? We are trying to force Russia to remove Putin through thus proxy war. And it's a very dangerous game.
Those building were the first ones the Russians hit. Also, I thought Chernobyl was a nuclear waste site.
Everyone should be asking why Chernobyl was one of the first places Russia went into..
 

vantexan

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Again that is why Russia is in Ukraine. Everyone said oohh we don't have those over there..

Just so you know they were planning on releasing something 10 x worse then cov..
More conspiracies. And they weren't talked about at all until they were exposed after the war started.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
More conspiracies. And they weren't talked about at all until they were exposed after the war started.
You are repeating the same thing you were told about the biolabs. You believed that there weren't any. Now you are repeating the same lie they are giving you about the stuff they were creating in there. Do some deep research on Chyna Ukraine. Wait you can't, because they have almost completely erased it from the net, but I'd bet you could find it on old maps..

Have you ever wondered why trump used to always pronounce Chyna in the way he did. The virus was released from Chyna.
 

vantexan

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You are repeating the same thing you were told about the biolabs. You believed that there weren't any. Now you are repeating the same lie they are giving you about the stuff they were creating in there. Do some deep research on Chyna Ukraine. Wait you can't, because they have almost completely erased it from the net, but I'd bet you could find it on old maps..

Have you ever wondered why trump used to always pronounce Chyna in the way he did. The virus was released from Chyna.
I wasn't told anything by the biolabs. Wasn't aware they existed until the war started. And again, more conspiracies.
 

Serf

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We were still in Syria at the start of Trump's term and U.S. forces killed about 500 Russian mercenaries. We didn't come to the edge of nuclear war over it. Ukraine is a very different scenario. Putin is serious enough about not allowing Ukraine into NATO that he's threatening using nukes. Whether that extends to ICBM's remains to be seen but if he uses tactical nukes in Ukraine we'll see whether Biden is serious or will he do a version of Obama's red line in Syria. Putin feared Trump. Nothing he's doing says he fears Biden.
 

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