Ukraine-Russia

[Thebrownblob]

You support Israel in their war as well, because you believe it has strategic alliance. They are not a member of nato, and neither is Ukraine, but is arguably just as important of a situation

Trump just gave billions to them and you are not nearly as outspoken about it. That doesn’t make you a “Warhawk”

I support the idea that Israel had to defend themselves. I don’t necessarily support everything they’ve done.

No one has ever explained to me what strategic importance Ukraine has because there is no strategic importance. The only thing they are is around everyone’s neck that has to be taken care of because they can’t take care of their selves. in the real world the weak fall and there’s nothing you can do about it.

On the one hand, you’ve told me the war has done great damage to Russia. On the other hand, you said if we don’t stop them now they’re going to be harder to stop. Lol none of that even makes sense. Unless you’re admitting that this useless war did nothing to Russia in reality. I’m not too concerned with Iran, Hamas and North Korea.

The only strategic importance it may have is to Europe let Europe fix it. Otherwise Russia, taking over the whole country would affect me not one bit nor you. Certainly not worth giving billions of dollars nor our blood if necessary.

 

[Over70irregs]

I support the idea that Israel had to defend themselves. I don’t necessarily support everything they’ve done.

No one has ever explained to me what strategic importance Ukraine has because there is no strategic importance. The only thing they are is around everyone’s neck that has to be taken care of because they can’t take care of their selves. in the real world the weak fall and there’s nothing you can do about it.

On the one hand, you’ve told me the war has done great damage to Russia. On the other hand, you said if we don’t stop them now they’re going to be harder to stop. Lol none of that even makes sense. Unless you’re admitting that this useless war did nothing to Russia in reality. I’m not too concerned with Iran, Hamas and North Korea.

The only strategic importance it may have is to Europe let Europe fix it. Otherwise Russia, taking over the whole country would affect me not one bit nor you. Certainly not worth giving billions of dollars nor our blood if necessary.

I have a far idea… What if your family lives off of military contracts no matter where you live?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I have a far idea… What if your family lives off of military contracts no matter where you live?

 

[Over70irregs]

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You scared me. I thought that was Shannon thinking about that 50-100M…. Damn..

 

[Doublestandards]

I support the idea that Israel had to defend themselves. I don’t necessarily support everything they’ve done.

And that’s how I feel about Ukraine. I support the idea that Ukraine had to defend themselves.

No one has ever explained to me what strategic importance Ukraine has because there is no strategic importance.

Russia is teaming up with North Korea, Iran and Hamas. I believe the strategic importance is the same as the reason you support Israel’s strategic importance

The only thing they are is around everyone’s neck that has to be taken care of because they can’t take care of their selves. in the real world the weak fall and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Again, we give billions to Israel, why is one okay but not the other?

On the one hand, you’ve told me the war has done great damage to Russia. On the other hand, you said if we don’t stop them now they’re going to be harder to stop.

Yes, there’s been great damage to Russia because we’ve helped them out so much. If we didn’t, or we stop, they would be much harder to stop

Lol none of that even makes sense. Unless you’re admitting that this useless war did nothing to Russia in reality. I’m not too concerned with Iran, Hamas and North Korea.

If you’re not concerned with those guys, why are we helping out Israel? What is the strategic importance there?

The only strategic importance it may have is to Europe let Europe fix it. Otherwise Russia, taking over the whole country would affect me not one bit nor you. Certainly not worth giving billions of dollars nor our blood if necessary.

Again back to Israel. Or we can go back in history as well. We tried staying out of world war 2 until we could no longer do so and were forced to

 

[Thebrownblob]

And that’s how I feel about Ukraine. I support the idea that Ukraine had to defend themselves.

Russia is teaming up with North Korea, Iran and Hamas. I believe the strategic importance is the same as the reason you support Israel’s strategic importance

Again, we give billions to Israel, why is one okay but not the other?

Yes, there’s been great damage to Russia because we’ve helped them out so much. If we didn’t, or we stop, they would be much harder to stop

If you’re not concerned with those guys, why are we helping out Israel? What is the strategic importance there?

Again back to Israel. Or we can go back in history as well. We tried staying out of world war 2 until we could no longer do so and were forced to

The strategic importance of Israel is the middle is full oil.until It isn’t or we no longer need it it will always be strategic value that doesn’t mean I always agree with how much money we give them what they do with it. If Israel was serious about getting rid of Hamas, they would fly some jets to Qatar and bomb the people who actually run Hamas.


The situation with World War III is nothing like Russia and Ukraine lol. We have a strategic binding pact with NATO whenever Russia decided to attack one of them. I will change my mind until then this isn’t our problem.

 

[Thebrownblob]

And that’s how I feel about Ukraine. I support the idea that Ukraine had to defend themselves.

Russia is teaming up with North Korea, Iran and Hamas. I believe the strategic importance is the same as the reason you support Israel’s strategic importance

Again, we give billions to Israel, why is one okay but not the other?

Yes, there’s been great damage to Russia because we’ve helped them out so much. If we didn’t, or we stop, they would be much harder to stop

If you’re not concerned with those guys, why are we helping out Israel? What is the strategic importance there?

Again back to Israel. Or we can go back in history as well. We tried staying out of world war 2 until we could no longer do so and were forced to

So Russia, Iran and North Korea are going to take over Europe? With a severely weakened Russia, according to what you’re telling me? Hmmm call me unconcerned.

Again, can you tell me what strategic import Ukraine has for us? Nobody ever has because it doesn’t have any.

 

[Doublestandards]

The strategic importance of Israel is the middle is full oil.

And Ukraine has lots of valuable minerals and metals

So Russia, Iran and North Korea are going to take over Europe? With a severely weakened Russia, according to what you’re telling me? Hmmm call me unconcerned.

Again, can you tell me what strategic import Ukraine has for us? Nobody ever has because it doesn’t have any.

What strategic importance does Israel have that Ukraine doesn’t?

 

[Thebrownblob]

And Ukraine has lots of valuable minerals and metals

What strategic importance does Israel have that Ukraine doesn’t?

I already told you. So in your estimation, this whole war was fought so that Trump could make some sort of deal so we can get their minerals and metals that we really don’t get from them now? I don’t think you understand strategic importance. And here I thought it was always because Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe somehow it was strategic. At least that’s the excuse we were given.

 

[Lineandinitial]

What strategic importance does Israel have that Ukraine doesn’t?

Enough firepower and weps to blow the rags right off their heads...

 

[Thebrownblob]

Enough firepower and weps to blow the rags right off their heads...

We do not get any appreciable, minerals and metals from Ukraine. And even if we did, we could live without it. It’s not that he doesn’t understand He doesn’t want to understand.

 

[Doublestandards]

I already told you. So in your estimation, this whole war was fought so that Trump could make some sort of deal so we can get their minerals and metals that we really don’t get from them now?

That’s not what I’m saying. Are you saying the whole Israel war fought so that Trump could make some sort of deal so we can get their oil?

I don’t think you understand strategic importance. And here I thought it was always because Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe somehow it was strategic. At least that’s the excuse we were given.

So you’re saying the strategic importance all comes down to oil, and that’s the only reason you support Israel but not Ukraine?

 

[Thebrownblob]

That’s not what I’m saying. Are you saying the whole Israel war fought so that Trump could make some sort of deal so we can get their oil?


So you’re saying the strategic importance all comes down to oil, and that’s the only reason you support Israel but not Ukraine?

Yes, I’m saying we help Israel because there are ally and their strategic because the Middle East is full of oil lol not that hard to understand.

There’s different strategic reasons for different places. Ukraine doesn’t have any strategic necessity to us. You haven’t outlined any because there isn’t any. You simply cannot admit that you have supported our involvement in a war that is unnecessary. And really don’t even know what you want out of this war. Do you want Russia to give back the land? Do you want Putin dead? do you want Russia to be overthrown and a new government installed? Lol yeah most of those would be terrible and none of them are going to happen.

 

[Thebrownblob]

And Ukraine has lots of valuable minerals and metals

What strategic importance does Israel have that Ukraine doesn’t?

I’m gonna say something that’s probably unpopular with a lot of posters here. But maybe just maybe Obama was right with the way he handled Russia in regards to Ukraine. I think he understood quite well that us getting involved too much was of no value to us and could only cause harm and possibly open up a worldwide conflict. He didn’t want his name attached to that Joe Biden wasn’t that smart. Probably because he hung out with corn pop too much and took people behind buildings and beat them up so he’s a tough guy.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

And Ukraine has lots of valuable minerals and metals

What strategic importance does Israel have that Ukraine doesn’t?

Since you don't want to google it, I'll help.

Ukraine
Israel

Israel is far more important economically, as well as just a military stronghold in the middle east.

 

[Doublestandards]

Since you don't want to google it, I'll help.

Ukraine
Israel

Israel is far more important economically, as well as just a military stronghold in the middle east.

“in 2019, the United States ran a $5.1 billion bilateral deficit in goods.”

According to Trump this would mean Israel is ripping us off, no?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Since you don't want to google it, I'll help.

Ukraine
Israel

Israel is far more important economically, as well as just a military stronghold in the middle east.

If his stance is somehow, Trump supports Israel and he doesn’t like it it’s not like voting for Kamala Harris would’ve made a difference. She was going to continue supporting the war in Ukraine and giving money to Israel as well.

 

[Thebrownblob]

“in 2019, the United States ran a $5.1 billion bilateral deficit in goods.”

According to Trump this would mean Israel is ripping us off, no?

Funny enough I think he told Netanyahu that lol

 

[Thebrownblob]

Funny enough I think he told Netanyahu that lol

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

“in 2019, the United States ran a $5.1 billion bilateral deficit in goods.”

According to Trump this would mean Israel is ripping us off, no?

Do you concede the point?

You're just deflecting and moving onto something else.

We do more than 10X the business with Israel that we do with Ukraine.