Unfair Production Standards

[menotyou]

Much like a pre-school teacher.. I rest my case.

What case? The acronyms, basic arithmetic, finger pointing and trickledown sounds like I am hearing yet another conference call that are oh so easy to pick up the phone and put on speakerphone for the entire preload and drivers to laugh their balls at.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What case? The acronyms, basic arithmetic, finger pointing and trickledown sounds like I am hearing yet another conference call that are oh so easy to pick up the phone and put on speakerphone for the entire preload and drivers to laugh their balls at.

You do like to make life difficult for yourself, don't you?

 

[menotyou]

I live on the edge. Funny thing is, it wasn't me picking up the phone. It was the boyfriend(preloader) of the preload sup. She suggested we would want the hear the call. You gotta love my center!!

 

[upserr1]

true, However I do know that a lot of businesses do care about the service they are getting, which isn't what it use to be do to all the cut routes that not only affect our production but the level of service we use to supply.

BINGO

 

[anonymous6]

what is the correct response when told of "any" production standard?

 

[bigblu 2 you]

what is the correct response when told of "any" production standard?

kindly leave sir.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

what is the correct response when told of "any" production standard?

We do not "produce" anything, except statstics that I.E. can manipulate and convince operations mgmt that anomalies have value while the chaos theory does not! We simply move the packages, nothing more nothing less.

 

[brownIEman]

what is the correct response when told of "any" production standard?

For some, the response is "My union does not recognize production standards. Further more, neither do I, nor do I believe in them. Also, neither my union or I believe in giving a fair days work. Although we did sign a contract stating we did, we purposefully made sure the definition of such is so nebulous as to be non-existent. I will therefore not work to yours nor any standard. In fact, I will go just as slowly as I feel like, and if you ask me to go faster, I will claim you are trying to make me do something that is unsafe. Even though in truth, you and I both know I could do about twice the work I am doing without getting anywhere in the realm of an unsafe pace."

Usually only the first sentence is verbalized.

I am not saying this is everyone's response, but many. There was a time I would have said you know who you are, but I have come to learn that many of the slugs really do not, in fact, realize they are slugs.

 

[tourists24]

For some, the response is "My union does not recognize production standards. Further more, neither do I, nor do I believe in them. Also, neither my union or I believe in giving a fair days work. Although we did sign a contract stating we did, we purposefully made sure the definition of such is so nebulous as to be non-existent. I will therefore not work to yours nor any standard. In fact, I will go just as slowly as I feel like, and if you ask me to go faster, I will claim you are trying to make me do something that is unsafe. Even though in truth, you and I both know I could do about twice the work I am doing without getting anywhere in the realm of an unsafe pace."

Usually only the first sentence is verbalized.

I am not saying this is everyone's response, but many. There was a time I would have said you know who you are, but I have come to learn that many of the slugs really do not, in fact, realize they are slugs.

Spoken like a true IE goon

 

[Anonymous 10]

For some, the response is "My union does not recognize production standards. Further more, neither do I, nor do I believe in them. Also, neither my union or I believe in giving a fair days work. Although we did sign a contract stating we did, we purposefully made sure the definition of such is so nebulous as to be non-existent. I will therefore not work to yours nor any standard. In fact, I will go just as slowly as I feel like, and if you ask me to go faster, I will claim you are trying to make me do something that is unsafe. Even though in truth, you and I both know I could do about twice the work I am doing without getting anywhere in the realm of an unsafe pace."

Usually only the first sentence is verbalized.

I am not saying this is everyone's response, but many. There was a time I would have said you know who you are, but I have come to learn that many of the slugs really do not, in fact, realize they are slugs.

Come on I've yet to find a driver who isn't working harder than most people in other professions. If you believe the statement that you wrote is true then I think you are smoking CRACK. Just saying

 

[tourists24]

Come on I've yet to find a driver who isn't working harder than most people in other professions. If you believe the statement that you wrote is true then I think you are smoking CRACK. Just saying

No, its just an IE guy who thinks the world should work the way "they" say it should. Its not that they suck, its the driver's fault (at least "many" of them)

 

[Nimnim]

Come on I've yet to find a driver who isn't working harder than most people in other professions. If you believe the statement that you wrote is true then I think you are smoking CRACK. Just saying

I can't speak for drivers, but when it comes to hub workers, there are quite a few who fit under his criteria. Yeah, it's not the majority, but they do exist.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I can't speak for drivers, but when it comes to hub workers, there are quite a few who fit under his criteria. Yeah, it's not the majority, but they do exist.

It is not as prevalent among the drivers but there are a few who also fit this criteria.

 

[804brown]

We do not "produce" anything, except statstics that I.E. can manipulate and convince operations mgmt that anomalies have value while the chaos theory does not! We simply move the packages, nothing more nothing less.

You are correct. We do not "produce" any product but we produce every penny of that $5.8 BILLION in profits!!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You are correct. We do not "produce" any product but we produce every penny of that $5.8 BILLION in profits!!

This is not true--there are many divisions within UPS that are not involved in package operations that add to the profit (i.e. UPS Capital).

 

[804brown]

For some, the response is "My union does not recognize production standards. Further more, neither do I, nor do I believe in them. Also, neither my union or I believe in giving a fair days work. Although we did sign a contract stating we did, we purposefully made sure the definition of such is so nebulous as to be non-existent. I will therefore not work to yours nor any standard. In fact, I will go just as slowly as I feel like, and if you ask me to go faster, I will claim you are trying to make me do something that is unsafe. Even though in truth, you and I both know I could do about twice the work I am doing without getting anywhere in the realm of an unsafe pace."

Usually only the first sentence is verbalized.

I am not saying this is everyone's response, but many. There was a time I would have said you know who you are, but I have come to learn that many of the slugs really do not, in fact, realize they are slugs.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn! Yeah ok so many slugs making a helluva lot of $$ for you pencil pushers!!

 

[menotyou]

I can't speak for drivers, but when it comes to hub workers, there are quite a few who fit under his criteria. Yeah, it's not the majority, but they do exist.

It is not as prevalent among the drivers but there are a few who also fit this criteria.

The few you speak of do not resemble the majority that work here.

To IEboy: the slugs you speak of were hired by your co-workers.

 

[Anonymous 10]

This is not true--there are many divisions within UPS that are not involved in package operations that add to the profit (i.e. UPS Capital).

Yea but small package is what started it all and with out that WE wouldn't have the rest.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yea but small package is what started it all and with out that WE wouldn't have the rest.

This is true but as we continue our transition small package will eventually become just another division within the company.

 

[bigblu 2 you]

For some, the response is "My union does not recognize production standards. Further more, neither do I, nor do I believe in them. Also, neither my union or I believe in giving a fair days work. Although we did sign a contract stating we did, we purposefully made sure the definition of such is so nebulous as to be non-existent. I will therefore not work to yours nor any standard. In fact, I will go just as slowly as I feel like, and if you ask me to go faster, I will claim you are trying to make me do something that is unsafe. Even though in truth, you and I both know I could do about twice the work I am doing without getting anywhere in the realm of an unsafe pace."

Usually only the first sentence is verbalized.

I am not saying this is everyone's response, but many. There was a time I would have said you know who you are, but I have come to learn that many of the slugs really do not, in fact, realize they are slugs.

now lets trade places and i am the i e man and you are the slug.i ask you to work faster and you say??well lets say you agree.then a few days or even weeks later i tell you those numbers have changed and i need better,you know where this is going dont you?im sorry to say i will have to give you a warning letter for not following mngmt instructions,failure to use methods,dishonesty,or any number of bogus violations i can think of.and soon you will be at a panel and i will have a file on you that makes you look like the wrench stuck in the cog.now let me ask you again,,,pick it up or find employment elsewhere.